New JonBenet Report: Grand Jury Voted To Indict Ramseys In 1999 But DA Shelved It

[jason_c]

Hi All!

Barnaby - you asked what Patsy's motive was. I believe (as do many others) that Patsy had no intention of killing JonBenet. It was a tragic accident. I believe that Patsy had so much going on during that holiday period, they were going on vacation early the next morning, and the kids were playing up, annoying her. Patsy may have pushed JonBenet and the child fell against a hard corner of something. The loud crack to her skull would have told Patsy that irreparable damage had been done. Patsy may have assumed that she had killed JonBenet.

This was the moment where a decision had to be made. Should she call 911? This would entail problems. She would be branded a murderer by everyone who knew her (and Patsy was all for appearances, remember?). I believe this feeling of what people might think over-rode everything else. In her panic she decided to make the death of her daughter look like a kidnapping. So she took her daughter's body down to the basement and hid it. That's when she sat down and wrote the ransom note.

Then....and this is what I believe happened next....Patsy thought she should embellish things by making the basement - and her daughter's body - more of a crime scene. She took some nylon cord and wrapped it around JonBenet's wrists, then another piece around her neck. This wasn't tight enough (Patsy wanted her daughter's death to look like death by strangulation), so she broke off a piece of a thin paintbrush and twisted it inside the nylon cord, like a garotte. Then she tore off a piece of duct tape and put it over JonBenet's mouth. (This was later proved to have been placed there after life was extinct). At some point afterwards Patsy took the remnants of the duct tape and the nylon cord and dumped them in a neighbour's trash can.

Then she covered her daughter's body in a fluffy white blanket, straight out of the tumble drier (the pink nightie may have been attached to this by static, that's why it was found with the blanket, no other reason).

Then.....after putting the ransom note on the steps of the spiral staircase Patsy ran upstairs screaming for John. The rest is history.

The evidence that I found most fascinating was that Patsy's was wearing the exact same clothes that morning as she had the night before. This was very much unlike her according to reports.

Could she have simply thrown on her nearest clothes once she knew Jon Benet was missing? Perhaps. The fact that she did contaminate the body by doing so instantly rang alarm bells with me.

[louisa]

Patsy was asked to give examples of her handwriting using first her right hand and then her left hand....

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[RivkahChaya]

That "DNA exoneration" came from a new DNA technique that is complete untested and not generally accepted in the forensics community. The DNA amount is so minute that it could have come from literally anywhere, even from the factory where the underwear was made.

I posted that not because I'm necessarily a supporter of the technique, swayed by the evidence, or what have you, just because it didn't make the headlines one might have expected (I don't remember what else was going on at the exact time-- it was in 2008, so maybe it was overshadowed by the election), and I thought a lot of people, especially people across the pond, might have been scratching their heads over it.

[louisa]

Hi All!

Barnaby - you asked what Patsy's motive was. I believe (as do many others) that Patsy had no intention of killing JonBenet. It was a tragic accident. I believe that Patsy had so much going on during that holiday period, they were going on vacation early the next morning, and the kids were playing up, annoying her. Patsy may have pushed JonBenet and the child fell against a hard corner of something. The loud crack to her skull would have told Patsy that irreparable damage had been done. Patsy may have assumed that she had killed JonBenet.

This was the moment where a decision had to be made. Should she call 911? This would entail problems. She would be branded a murderer by everyone who knew her (and Patsy was all for appearances, remember?). I believe this feeling of what people might think over-rode everything else. In her panic she decided to make the death of her daughter look like a kidnapping. So she took her daughter's body down to the basement and hid it. That's when she sat down and wrote the ransom note.

Then....and this is what I believe happened next....Patsy thought she should embellish things by making the basement - and her daughter's body - more of a crime scene. She took some nylon cord and wrapped it around JonBenet's wrists, then another piece around her neck. This wasn't tight enough (Patsy wanted her daughter's death to look like death by strangulation), so she broke off a piece of a thin paintbrush and twisted it inside the nylon cord, like a garotte. Then she tore off a piece of duct tape and put it over JonBenet's mouth. (This was later proved to have been placed there after life was extinct). At some point afterwards Patsy took the remnants of the duct tape and the nylon cord and dumped them in a neighbour's trash can.

Then she covered her daughter's body in a fluffy white blanket, straight out of the tumble drier (the pink nightie may have been attached to this by static, that's why it was found with the blanket, no other reason).

Then.....after putting the ransom note on the steps of the spiral staircase Patsy ran upstairs screaming for John. The rest is history.

[Magpie]

For people who don't know, the "newly discovered DNA evidence," that cleared the family in 1998, was male DNA on JonBenet's underwear, that did not match her father or brother, nor appear to be a relative at all.

That "DNA exoneration" came from a new DNA technique that is complete untested and not generally accepted in the forensics community. The DNA amount is so minute that it could have come from literally anywhere, even from the factory where the underwear was made.

[Barnaby]

I haven't read the Thomas book. What was Patsy's motive?

[Archaic]

Hi Louisa.

I agree with you.

As for the male DNA found, it doesn't actually "exonerate" the Ramseys. Scientists have proven that even brand-new undergarments pick up other people's DNA right in the factory where they are being made and packaged.

I've always thought that the most bizarre aspect of this puzzling case is the so-called 'Ransom Note'. It's pretty much the phoniest thing I ever read. And it's got "Patsy" written all over it.

The sentence, "We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction" is like fingers on the blackboard to me.

It's not surprising that Patsy's 'pageant talent' was giving dramatic readings. I'm sure the 'Ramsey Ransom Note' sounds better when read aloud with just the right inflection.

I wish I could hold out hope that someday there will be justice for JonBenet, but sadly it seems unlikely... poor little girl.

Best regards,
Archaic

[louisa]

I suspect that this is one crime that will never have closure. Not unless John Ramsey, or his son Burke, come out and tell what really happened that night, and now that seems very unlikely to happen.

For my money the best, and I suspect, the most accurate, account of events is in the excellent book 'Inside The Ramsey Murder Investigation' by Steve Thomas, one of the top investigators on the case at the time. The whole of the Boulder police force knew Patsy was guilty and that is still where they stand on this, but their investigations were obstructed at every turn by the Ramseys' high powered lawyers.

It just goes to show that rich people can get away with murder.

[RivkahChaya]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2562007.html

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...indict-ramseys

Best regards,
Archaic

I remember when John Mark Karr was first arrested and extradited, before photographs and affidavits placed him out of state at the time of the murder, there was a newspaper cartoon of Death (the hooded skeleton with the scythe) sitting on a lounge chair in front of his TV, watching the news coverage of the extradition, and saying "Wow; even I thought the parents did it."

For people who don't know, the "newly discovered DNA evidence," that cleared the family in 1998, was male DNA on JonBenet's underwear, that did not match her father or brother, nor appear to be a relative at all.

[Archaic]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2562007.html

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...indict-ramseys

Best regards,
Archaic