kennedy assassination

[jimarilyn]

Jukka,

There's a better chance that the Easter Bunny was behind the fence on the Grassy Knoll on November 22nd, 1963 than Files.

James Files (Sutton) has about as much credibility on the Kennedy assassination as Joseph Gorman (Sickert) does in Ripperland. Files was just another anonymous prisoner doing a 30 year stretch until his confessed involvement in the most famous assassination of the twentieth century.

Cheers,

Robert

Unless James E Files is the greatest actor who has ever lived there is no doubt he fired the Remington Fireball which blew JFK's brains out.

[Jonathan H]

To RJM

I could not agree more.

I would also add that many people seem unaware of the political context of the JFK Assassination in terms of the bias of the Buffs who initially flayed the Warren Report and the FBI's investigation.

Lee Harvey Oswald was perceived as a 'Man of the Left'.

Actually, by the time he shot Kennedy, this alienated, selfish, grindingly poor wife-beater had become an 'anarcho-futurist' with Hitler as his model, but nevertheless he had been a Communist, one who had briefly lived in the Soviet Union -- and who had tried to kill the fascistic General Walker.

For many American liberals it seemed totally implausible that Kennedy could have been killed in a racist, right-wing city of Nuts like Dallas by a Pro-Castro Leftist?!

Therefore, they claimed that it all must have been a right-wing conspiracy [the first villainous choice of the Buffs was Texas Oil Tycoons] to manipulate Oswald, or even frame him outright.

As another writer pointed out [was it William Manchester?] if Nixon had been elected in 1960 and then assassinated in, say Boston, but unexpectedly not by a 'Negro' or an ACLU fanatic, but by a Bircher -- right-wingers would never have accepted the official verdict either [actually most did not, believing that Oswald was an agent of the 'International Communist Conspiracy'].

Or look at tha assassination on President Reagan in March 1981. The would-be-assassin was not a liberal, or a 'welfare queen', or even a working stiff like a REAL cabbie.

Instead it was the young John W Hinckley Jr, a pudgy failure and scion of a a very conservative, affluent WASP pillar of the country club establishment -- and who was briefly a member of the American Nazi Party. The Right-wing Reagan was nearly killed in the liberal, mostly Black DC, by an extreme right-winger.

Are there any grand conspiracy theories about Reagan's near-murder?

Hardly any.

Certainly none which have gained populist traction in the mainstream.

This is because liberal Buffs had nothing to hang their bias onto because the 'fascistic' Reagan seemed to have been nearly offed by a junior fascist.

But if the shooter had been an African-American, or an ex-Yippie from the SDS -- and Reagan had died -- then we would be deluged in conspiracy mythology about frame-ups, and second and third gunmen, and so on ...

[RJM]

Jukka,

There's a better chance that the Easter Bunny was behind the fence on the Grassy Knoll on November 22nd, 1963 than Files.

James Files (Sutton) has about as much credibility on the Kennedy assassination as Joseph Gorman (Sickert) does in Ripperland. Files was just another anonymous prisoner doing a 30 year stretch until his confessed involvement in the most famous assassination of the twentieth century.

Cheers,

Robert

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

Just out of interest;

What do you think about James Files?!

All the best
Jukka

[cappuccina]

Yes, they did...House Select Committee investigation into JFK's assassination....1978....

[sdreid]

Hi Jukka,

I think they did but I won't be able to swear to it.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Stan!

One thing came to my mind;

I know, that they have tested the shooting circumstances in Dallas, at least in 1978 (if I remember correctly!)

Did they use scopes then or not?!

All the best
Jukka

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Stan!

In my view, scopes are overrated as sights anyway. I avoid them when I'm given the option for shooting.

Well, I've never tried with a scope!

All the best
Jukka

[Roy Corduroy]

So just when was Lee Oswald supposed to have carried out this target practice ?

He belonged to a hunting club in Russia. No kidding.

Roy

[sdreid]

In my view, scopes are overrated as sights anyway. I avoid them when I'm given the option for shooting.

[jimarilyn]

Strange considering he qualified as a sharpshooter with a score of 212 in the Marines. According to his records his best position being the kneeling position (his likely assassination position) whilst shooting.

This score was achieved literally years before the JFK assassination and with Marine approved quality equipment, not a 1941 piece of crock (Mannlicher Carcano) with a misaligned scope.
To retain any skill/efficiency (and keep one's eye 'in') with a rifle would require a person to undertake continued regular target practice. So just when was Lee Oswald supposed to have carried out this target practice ? Perhaps during his dinner breaks from work ? I'd be very interested indeed to know.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello jason c!

Well, to go on with my thoughts;

What is the Maximum score in the Marines?

I've never been a Marine...

All the best
Jukka

(PS: It's an architype thing with this matter; whose records, where?! Since this case is filled with info and "info"...)

[jason_c]

Hello Gman992!

On the other hand, the sergeant, who trained Oswald, described him as a "goofy shooter"!

So, how good Goofy has been with firearms?!

All the best


Jukka

Strange considering he qualified as a sharpshooter with a score of 212 in the Marines. According to his records his best position being the kneeling position (his likely assassination position) whilst shooting.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Gman992!

On the other hand, the sergeant, who trained Oswald, described him as a "goofy shooter"!

So, how good Goofy has been with firearms?!

All the best
Jukka

[jason_c]

hi Graham

late to this, sorry.

I recall seeing a documentary in which someone was filmed using the actual (???) rifle and meeting the shot / time deadline with a little time to spare.

I think it is telling that some people apparently ran towards the grassy knoll after the shooting - why would they do that?

atb

viv

They were following officer Clyde Haygood.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold3.htm