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  • jason_c
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    • Feb 2008
    • 966

    #331
    Originally posted by Archaic View Post
    Hi, Brad.

    I agree with you. Dr Carrico and all the other doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital very clearly saw an entrance wound in Kennedy's throat. That bullet cannot have been fired by Oswald.

    Best regards, Archaic
    Why would all the doctors see an entry wound in Kennedy's throat when it was obliterated early on by the tracheostomy?

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    • Phryne Fisher
      Cadet
      • Jun 2008
      • 37

      #332
      Originally posted by jason_c View Post
      Why would all the doctors see an entry wound in Kennedy's throat when it was obliterated early on by the tracheostomy?
      Because they saw it before they performed the tracheostomy?
      Chief Superintendent Brownlow: "Are there any Tension Indicators? Over!"

      DI Galloway: "Tension indicators?! They're throwing bloody petrol bombs. Sir."

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      • jimarilyn
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        • Mar 2008
        • 944

        #333
        Originally posted by jason_c View Post
        Why would all the doctors see an entry wound in Kennedy's throat when it was obliterated early on by the tracheostomy?
        These very experienced doctors were witnessing the small entrance wound in JFK's throat upon his arrival into Emergency at Parkland. This wound was enlarged to enable the potentially life saving tracheostomy operation to be performed.

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        • jason_c
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          • Feb 2008
          • 966

          #334
          Originally posted by jimarilyn View Post
          These very experienced doctors were witnessing the small entrance wound in JFK's throat upon his arrival into Emergency at Parkland. This wound was enlarged to enable the potentially life saving tracheostomy operation to be performed.
          In an emergency situation they had time to have a detailed study of the wound?

          Dr Perry, who administered the tracheotomy "thrice stated at a press conference later that day that the wound appeared to be an entrance wound. However, when interviewed by the Warren Commission, Perry said that he now believed that a "full jacketed bullet without deformation passing through the skin would leave a similar wound for an exit and entrance wound and with the facts which you have made available and with these assumptions, I believe that it was an exit wound."

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Perry_(physician)

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          • rain
            Constable
            • Jun 2008
            • 57

            #335
            what happens when one disagrees with the official report...

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            • jimarilyn
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              • Mar 2008
              • 944

              #336
              Originally posted by jason_c View Post
              In an emergency situation they had time to have a detailed study of the wound?

              Dr Perry, who administered the tracheotomy "thrice stated at a press conference later that day that the wound appeared to be an entrance wound. However, when interviewed by the Warren Commission, Perry said that he now believed that a "full jacketed bullet without deformation passing through the skin would leave a similar wound for an exit and entrance wound and with the facts which you have made available and with these assumptions, I believe that it was an exit wound."

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Perry_(physician)

              Dr Perry's statements to the press on November 22nd 1963 were made very shortly after JFK expired. He had treated numerous gunshot wounds previous to this and well knew the difference between entrance and exit wounds. His memory was very fresh and he was clearly describing what he (and other Parkland staff) had seen as he examined JFK's body on that hospital bed..

              When he was interviewed by the Warren Commissin a full 4 months had elapsed since the day of the assassination. Much had been written and theorised about concerning the assassination during those intervening 4 months. 4 months for his memory/recall to be coloured and swayed by things he had read, heard on radio or seen on TV.

              He had obviously felt pressurised to tell the Warren Commission what they wanted to hear. The Commission had a pre-established agenda and we all know what that was.


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              • jason_c
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                • Feb 2008
                • 966

                #337
                jimarilyn

                I can just as easily claim Dr Perry was tired and emotional at the press conference. A press conference where he was being bombarded by all sorts of questions by numerous reporters.

                Still, you can keep believing that the doctors at Parkland viewed the throat wound as an entry wound.

                I have simply posted a differing view from one of the main surgeons at the scene that day.

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                • rain
                  Constable
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 57

                  #338
                  this is an interesting paragraph...

                  One of the pages in our archive reveals that in a dispatch sent almost exactly 25 minutes after the assassination, Mr. Smith reported "Some of the Secret Service agents thought the gunfire was from an automatic weapon fired to the right rear of the president's car, probably from a grassy knoll to which police rushed."





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                  another significant paragraph...

                  No other news reports or witness interviews are known to contain the phrase "grassy knoll" at that time. In fact, tapes of local news coverage reveal that "grassy knoll" was later repeated by a few other reporters for several hours until investigators became convinced the shots originated from the old Texas School Book Depository. Yet it remains an historical fact that police and spectators immediately ran to the grassy knoll, not to the Depository building. And UPI's Merriman Smith reported it first.
                  Last edited by rain; 08-27-2009, 10:37 PM.

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                  • Ally
                    WWotW
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2554

                    #339
                    I may slowly be coming to the conclusion that there might have been a conspiracy to kill JFK. I don't believe at all in the grassy knoll crap, the footage clearly shows the wound entering at the back of his head and the propulsion going out the front. I have no firm belief whether Oswald was the actual shooter or the patsy, but I believe the shot came from the Book depository. However, I after looking at some things, I am starting to say.."hmmm". Just a niggle currently.

                    Let all Oz be agreed;
                    I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                    • Pettifogger
                      Cadet
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 35

                      #340
                      If the you follow the conspiracy theory...

                      of the JFK assassination in Dallas, you start first with a list of those least likely to mourn his passing.

                      It has always intrigued me that all of the conspiracy theories eliminate Jackie Kennedy from the pool of suspects. He treated her like dirt and his numerous affairs made her a cruel victim. If she knew what was going to happen in Dallas, I really wonder if she would have warned him...seriously!

                      I can't shake the idea that what happened in Dallas on 11/22/63 was an execution. The 64k question would then be who the bullet(s) were really directed at: JFK, his brother Bobby or patriarch Joseph P. Kennnedy?

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                      • jason_c
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 966

                        #341
                        Originally posted by Ally View Post
                        I may slowly be coming to the conclusion that there might have been a conspiracy to kill JFK. I don't believe at all in the grassy knoll crap, the footage clearly shows the wound entering at the back of his head and the propulsion going out the front. I have no firm belief whether Oswald was the actual shooter or the patsy, but I believe the shot came from the Book depository. However, I after looking at some things, I am starting to say.."hmmm". Just a niggle currently.
                        Can I ask why you are starting to doubt LHO acted alone?

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                        • Ally
                          WWotW
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2554

                          #342
                          I don't yet know if I believe it. However, in order for something like a presidential assassination to occur, only one little thing needs to go wrong. There were so many lapses in security and so many irregularities that occurred that day that it does seem to be beyond the realm of probable chance. The footage of Emory Roberts ordering the secret service off kennedy's limo was what made me start wondering. Because if the two agents had been on the foot rails where they were supposed to have been, the shot would not have been able to occur. So in any case...just currently wondering. I don't usually subscribe to conspiracy theories as they are usually way too convoluted, and my "theory" is probably not so much a plot as an "allowed to happen" or did not prevent.
                          Last edited by Ally; 08-28-2009, 09:06 PM.

                          Let all Oz be agreed;
                          I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                          • jimarilyn
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 944

                            #343
                            70 today

                            Had he survived the shooting, Lee Oswald might have been celebrating his 70th birthday today. The hoodlum, Jack Ruby, made sure that possibility would never exist and in effect caused 46 years of chaos and confusion to reign as to the truth about the assassination and what dark and powerful forces were behind it. Who mourns for the innocent patsy, Lee Oswald, I wonder ?

                            It's very interesting to note what Ruby had to say (in a filmed interview in Dallas Jail) about the subject......

                            Ruby - "Everything pertaining to what's happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives...The people who had to have so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive to put me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world."

                            Interviewer - "Are these people in very high positions Jack ?"

                            Ruby - "Yes"
                            Last edited by jimarilyn; 10-18-2009, 01:41 PM.

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                            • c.d.
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6569

                              #344
                              Hi Pettifogger,

                              I don't know if you have ever been to Arlington National Cemetary but there is a blown up photograph on the wall of Jackie Kennedy at the grave site when JFK was being laid to rest. It is hard to look at it even after all these years. The look of pain and sorrow on her face is heart breaking.

                              c.d.

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                              • Limehouse
                                Chief Inspector
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1895

                                #345
                                Equally heartbreaking is the photograph of his infant son and that salute.

                                Whatever Kennedy was, and I know very little about the subject and do not even remember his death, those left behind suffered greatly at his loss.

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