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  • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

    The parents were cleared long ago. There is not one iota of evidence to link them to their daughters disappearance.
    You mean other than leaving Maddie alone for hours?

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    • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

      You mean other than leaving Maddie alone for hours?
      that they werent charged and convicted of child neglect (at least)was the second tragedy in this case. what a couple of complete and utter self centered psychopaths.
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

        that they werent charged and convicted of child neglect (at least)was the second tragedy in this case. what a couple of complete and utter self centered psychopaths.
        I agree Abby and I think had they been working class rather then middle class they would have been charged and convicted of child neglect.

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        • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

          You mean other than leaving Maddie alone for hours?
          That is a different question. Does that make them involved in their daughters disappearance? Obviously not. Were they guilty of neglect? Absolutely as were all their friends. Don't forget the whole party did it. But then it would be impossible to prosecute them for that under British law when it occurred in Portugal. The law is complicated.

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          • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
            It would be interesting to know how Breukner first came to the attention of the police-was it by the confession to the "friend"? If so, need to know who it is and the circs around the "confession"--is it a jail house snitch type scenario?

            any way this loser does look like a good suspect-apparently he has previous sexual assaults at that resort and is a pedophile. and was there at the time.

            Hopefully they can match DNA-Im assuming they have DNA from the crime scene? Does anyone know?

            The Germans did a sift through phone numbers used in the vicinity of the Ocean Club on the night and then attempted to discern if the numbers were linked to anyone who had a criminal record. This flagged up Breuckner. There is no DNA from the crime scene as the Portuguese Police failed to secure the scene in the initial golden hour in particular. In saying that the focus was finding Madeleine so the initial Police actions were very inadequate in regards scene preservation.

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            • Didnt the mother or father delete some calls ? Were they not found?

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              • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

                That is a different question. Does that make them involved in their daughters disappearance? Obviously not. Were they guilty of neglect? Absolutely as were all their friends. Don't forget the whole party did it. But then it would be impossible to prosecute them for that under British law when it occurred in Portugal. The law is complicated.
                The point is had the McCann's not left there daughter unattended she wouldn't be missing. It does not matter if all there friends did leave there children unattended. Fair point about it occuring in Portugal.

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                • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                  The point is had the McCann's not left there daughter unattended she wouldn't be missing. It does not matter if all there friends did leave there children unattended. Fair point about it occuring in Portugal.

                  They have to live with that choice. Forever. Imagine waking up everyday knowing what you did presented an opportunity for a predator to take your daughter never to be found. And you have two other kids to bring up. Some people may never have any sympathy for them and maybe they don't deserve any but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.

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                  • Originally posted by Paddy View Post
                    Didnt the mother or father delete some calls ? Were they not found?
                    I remember something about that. But that is just a starting point. Who were they calling? Their accomplice who had snatched their daughter? A friend so they could hide the body? You can look at it and think that's suspicious but the crucial thing is what would they seek to hide? Why call someone 9-10 times? If we are to believe they were involved in killing Madeleine accidentally who is Kate phoning. It wasnt Gerry as his phone didn't ping the masts. Gerry rang Kate a couple of times- probably to update on the search. So who did they call- and why?

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                    • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post
                      ... but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.
                      Here is a video of Gerry McCann taken a few days after the disappearance of his daughter:
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlS-gO5Ask

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                      • Its a very strange reaction from Mr Mccann.

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                        • Originally posted by gallicrow View Post

                          Here is a video of Gerry McCann taken a few days after the disappearance of his daughter:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlS-gO5Ask
                          That is quite pathetic really. For all we know he could be speaking about his daughter and telling a funny story about her to try and lift spirits. It proves literally nothing. You would have to do a fair bit better than that.

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                          • Originally posted by Paddy View Post
                            Its a very strange reaction from Mr Mccann.
                            How so? We don't know the context do we? It proves nothing. In fact it is rather pathetic.

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                            • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post


                              They have to live with that choice. Forever. Imagine waking up everyday knowing what you did presented an opportunity for a predator to take your daughter never to be found. And you have two other kids to bring up. Some people may never have any sympathy for them and maybe they don't deserve any but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.
                              nothing compared to what their poor daughter went through.

                              and how do you know they have any guilt? You call the posting of the video of the father pathetic and we dont know the context, blah blah blah and yet you are going to cry about the guilt they feel like thats some fact? you have no idea if they have any guilt at all.
                              And as far as we know they are directly responsible-they could have sold her, killed her, accidently killed her. At the very least they are indirectly responsible and guilty of child neglect.

                              I seriously hope they do have "guilt they have to live with everyday". im not so sure. but I have no sympathy for them at all-only for their poor child.
                              "Is all that we see or seem
                              but a dream within a dream?"

                              -Edgar Allan Poe


                              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                              -Frederick G. Abberline

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                              • Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post

                                I remember something about that. But that is just a starting point. Who were they calling? Their accomplice who had snatched their daughter? A friend so they could hide the body? You can look at it and think that's suspicious but the crucial thing is what would they seek to hide? Why call someone 9-10 times? If we are to believe they were involved in killing Madeleine accidentally who is Kate phoning. It wasnt Gerry as his phone didn't ping the masts. Gerry rang Kate a couple of times- probably to update on the search. So who did they call- and why?
                                exactly-your daughter is missing and your deleting calls? what the eff for? classic guilty behavior.
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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