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  • richardnunweek
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    Hi Debra
    Many thanks, that alone would be worth any update, I found Fiona's brief reflections on Casebook some years ago regarding McCarthy's suspect as fascinating, never revealed alas
    Interesting
    Regards Richard

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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
    Hi ,
    I was not aware that Fiona Kendall lane, ever mentioned a suspects name, if she did it surely would have been the one that family tradition believed was The Ripper
    As this was initially from Kelly's landlord McCarthy, it would be exciting
    Regards Richard
    Hi Richard. Fiona's husband revealed the name to Trevor and he has put a brief discussion of the family story, plus the suspect's name, in the updated version of his book.

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  • richardnunweek
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    Hi ,
    I was not aware that Fiona Kendall lane, ever mentioned a suspects name, if she did it surely would have been the one that family tradition believed was The Ripper
    As this was initially from Kelly's landlord McCarthy, it would be exciting
    Regards Richard

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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by PaulB View Post

    The list is one thing, Trevor, quite another is your promise that the revised edition contains "new" and "important" stuff "never before made public".
    One of new things must be mentioning the name of Fiona Kendall Lane's suspect for the murder of MJK.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Hi Trevor
    thanks for responding. I actually have never bought/read any of your books but I am thinking of doing so. Im merely asking so I know what book is the most updated/ complete etc.??
    Hi Abby
    The current one is the most up to date

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  • PaulB
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Let me put the record straight because I am fed up with some on here constantly whinging and whining.

    What was posted in #1

    A new suspect for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A motive for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A conspiracy to cover up the Mary Kelly murder
    Mary Kelly finally identified?
    The emergence of a new and never before seen photo of Mary Kelly
    New evidence in the case against Walter Sickert
    Mitre Square crime scene revisited with both new, and new medical evidence
    The report of an alleged murder of an unknown female in Whitechapel at the time of the murders, and the conspiracy, and conspirators involved in the cover up of that murder.
    New images not in the original kindle publication

    Now everything related to the above and more are to be found in the book.

    It is not for me to point out specifically where all of this can be found. It is for the reader to read the book and find out for themselves. If they dont want, to or cant be bothered then it is still for them to open their eyes and spend a few moments perusing the respective chapters where the new stuff can be found.

    After all if you purchased a murder fiction book would you go straight to the last chapter to find out who the killer was?

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    You omitted to mention that you also said,
    "The concluding part of my investigation, relates to new evidence, and new facts which with all the material previously gathered, now not only challenges, but in my opinion dispels the myth that has been Jack the Ripper.

    The revised and updated book contains new important aspects of the mystery never before made public these being."

    The list is one thing, Trevor, quite another is your promise that the revised edition contains "new" and "important" stuff "never before made public".

    I and others have been through your book looking for this and nothing "important" has leapt from the page. Nothing. You are being asked to point out where it can be found, but you won't or can't. Why is that?

    (By the way, "After all if you purchased a murder fiction book would you go straight to the last chapter to find out who the killer was?" This isn't a novel, it's non-fiction, and it isn't a new book, it's an old one. And you have charged for it three times. So, some people can justifiably request that you tell them where the new information is, and as you are asking £10 from them, you can shift your bones and tell them.)

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  • Batman
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    The emergence of a new and never before seen photo of Mary Kelly
    I would think this significant as we currently have no idea how she looked. Unless it's a baby picture. Or taking a photo of her crime scene with your camera off your computer monitor, cropping it and calling it an never seen before photo. I really hope it's the former.

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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Let me put the record straight because I am fed up with some on here constantly whinging and whining.

    What was posted in #1

    A new suspect for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A motive for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A conspiracy to cover up the Mary Kelly murder
    Mary Kelly finally identified?
    The emergence of a new and never before seen photo of Mary Kelly
    New evidence in the case against Walter Sickert
    Mitre Square crime scene revisited with both new, and new medical evidence
    The report of an alleged murder of an unknown female in Whitechapel at the time of the murders, and the conspiracy, and conspirators involved in the cover up of that murder.
    New images not in the original kindle publication

    Now everything related to the above and more are to be found in the book.

    It is not for me to point out specifically where all of this can be found. It is for the reader to read the book and find out for themselves. If they dont want, to or cant be bothered then it is still for them to open their eyes and spend a few moments perusing the respective chapters where the new stuff can be found.

    After all if you purchased a murder fiction book would you go straight to the last chapter to find out who the killer was?

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    Those whinging and moaning are paying customers!

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    What would you suggest I do post all the new stuff and updates on here fro free, and have the usual small minority of hatchet men and women rip it to pieces as I expect them to do. If they are going to do that then they might as well pay for the privilege to do so.

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    Hi Trevor
    thanks for responding. I actually have never bought/read any of your books but I am thinking of doing so. Im merely asking so I know what book is the most updated/ complete etc.??

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    how many of trevors ripper books are basically the same book but with just "new" material and updates added?
    What would you suggest I do post all the new stuff and updates on here fro free, and have the usual small minority of hatchet men and women rip it to pieces as I expect them to do. If they are going to do that then they might as well pay for the privilege to do so.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Debra A View Post
    Well I certainly feel cheated out of my £5, Trevor. You advertised 'new facts' and information in the updated version of your book and listed them. One claim was a new possible identification of MJK. I have bought and read five of your books now, including previous editions of this particular book and as you say, I am only interested in what is new for this edition and I haven't found any 'new facts' at all. Your blurb is totally misleading and I have been conned in to parting with £5 on the strength of it.
    Let me put the record straight because I am fed up with some on here constantly whinging and whining.

    What was posted in #1

    A new suspect for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A motive for the murder of Mary Kelly
    A conspiracy to cover up the Mary Kelly murder
    Mary Kelly finally identified?
    The emergence of a new and never before seen photo of Mary Kelly
    New evidence in the case against Walter Sickert
    Mitre Square crime scene revisited with both new, and new medical evidence
    The report of an alleged murder of an unknown female in Whitechapel at the time of the murders, and the conspiracy, and conspirators involved in the cover up of that murder.
    New images not in the original kindle publication

    Now everything related to the above and more are to be found in the book.

    It is not for me to point out specifically where all of this can be found. It is for the reader to read the book and find out for themselves. If they dont want, to or cant be bothered then it is still for them to open their eyes and spend a few moments perusing the respective chapters where the new stuff can be found.

    After all if you purchased a murder fiction book would you go straight to the last chapter to find out who the killer was?

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  • Abby Normal
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    how many of trevors ripper books are basically the same book but with just "new" material and updates added?

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  • Debra A
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

    The problem is as I see it is that you and others are only interested in some of the new stuff, which I accept, but there is no use in moaning when you cannot find what you are specifically interested in when you cant find it on your first try. because I can assure you if you take the time to read it and understand where the new stuff appears then all will become clear.

    My advice is read the book in its entirety

    So I have not cheated anyone.. It has taken me many years, a lot of time and money has been spent to get to where I am now with it.
    Well I certainly feel cheated out of my £5, Trevor. You advertised 'new facts' and information in the updated version of your book and listed them. One claim was a new possible identification of MJK. I have bought and read five of your books now, including previous editions of this particular book and as you say, I am only interested in what is new for this edition and I haven't found any 'new facts' at all. Your blurb is totally misleading and I have been conned in to parting with £5 on the strength of it.

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  • PaulB
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    I clearly state that this is a revised edition, which contains new evidence and new facts and I have publicly stated what is now in the book. I have also stated that it contains material previously published which is true.

    The new book was previously only available in kindle and i have now made it available in paperback for those who do not like kindle books.

    The problem is as I see it is that you and others are only interested in some of the new stuff, which I accept, but there is no use in moaning when you cannot find what you are specifically interested in when you cant find it on your first try. because I can assure you if you take the time to read it and understand where the new stuff appears then all will become clear.

    My advice is read the book in its entirety

    So I have not cheated anyone.. It has taken me many years, a lot of time and money has been spent to get to where I am now with it.

    It will be a valuable acquisition to all those unbiased members of the ripper forums, and members of the public who are interested in the mystery.

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    I know very well what you state and how clearly you state it, Trevor, which is why I dropped £10 to buy your book. More to the point, I have bought both previous editions and read them with great care and attention. I have no particular desire to read your book a third time. I have paid £10 specifically for what you describe as “new evidence” and “new facts” that help dispel “the myth”, and also describe as “new important aspects” (whatever that means). I have spent time going through the book in search of this exciting new material, but it isn't obvious and I want to know where I can find it. Why can’t or won’t you point me or others to that new information?

    Yes, I and other people want to see the new information. What is strange about that? It shouldn’t pose a “problem” for anyone, should it Trevor? We’ve paid to see it. You have taken our money to see it. All you are being asked to do is to show us where it is.

    Getting the new information isn’t a puzzle we have to solve, Trevor. We shouldn’t have to wade through you book a third time to stumble across it. I haven’t accused you of cheating anyone, Trevor. I’ve just asked for page numbers where I can find the new and important stuff I have just paid you £10 to read.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by PaulB View Post
    This is your third edition of this book, which began life as The Secret Police Files, so don't you think your readers, the people you want to invest their hard-earned money in your book, deserve to be given clear guidance to what the new information is for which you want their money, and where they can find it? Using Kindle search is great for those who have sacrificed a book they've already paid for to get the new Kindle version, but what about those who took the plunge and bought your paperback? How do they find the new information without trawling through a book they've maybe already read twice?

    You are selling a product, you are claiming that the product contains new and important information. Don't you think you have a moral responsibility to tell all your potential readers where that information is?

    New and important information, Trevor. It doesn't appear to be there, Trevor. People can't find it. Don't you think you have a moral obligation to help people recognise it?
    I clearly state that this is a revised edition, which contains new evidence and new facts and I have publicly stated what is now in the book. I have also stated that it contains material previously published which is true.

    The new book was previously only available in kindle and i have now made it available in paperback for those who do not like kindle books.

    The problem is as I see it is that you and others are only interested in some of the new stuff, which I accept, but there is no use in moaning when you cannot find what you are specifically interested in when you cant find it on your first try. because I can assure you if you take the time to read it and understand where the new stuff appears then all will become clear.

    My advice is read the book in its entirety

    So I have not cheated anyone.. It has taken me many years, a lot of time and money has been spent to get to where I am now with it.

    It will be a valuable acquisition to all those unbiased members of the ripper forums, and members of the public who are interested in the mystery.

    Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 11-02-2018, 01:35 AM.

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