Hi David,
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
John G thanked me for my reply and clarification." Post #329. Of course, he could have been being impish.
It's a historical fact that five women were murdered in a small geographical area within a three month period.
What do you mean when you say there was a Jack the Ripper?
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostHi John,
Well your last sentence was "Please let me know if I've left out any options."
How is "Three" responsive to that I wonder?
Or did you mean your actual last question which was: "Or are you saying you're not really sure about any of this but you'll get back to us when you are sure, or a least responsibly satisfied with your conclusions?"
I can't see how "Three" can answer that one.
I'm starting to think he didn't answer your post at all!
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Originally posted by John G View PostThere is no logical basis for this assertion as no perpetrator was ever caught. Maybe these was, maybe there wasn't. Who knows?
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Originally posted by Hunter View PostI believe it was the late Christopher Hitchens who said, " What can be asserted without evidence can easily be dismissed without evidence."Last edited by Sam Flynn; 08-04-2017, 01:57 PM.
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Originally posted by John G View PostHi David,
Not exactly, it was a bit cryptic! However, look at my last sentence in Post 315. I've a funny feeling he was answering that question.
Well your last sentence was "Please let me know if I've left out any options."
How is "Three" responsive to that I wonder?
Or did you mean your actual last question which was: "Or are you saying you're not really sure about any of this but you'll get back to us when you are sure, or a least responsibly satisfied with your conclusions?"
I can't see how "Three" can answer that one.
I'm starting to think he didn't answer your post at all!
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostHi John - Did you understand what Simon meant by "Three"?
Not exactly, it was a bit cryptic! However, look at my last sentence in Post 315. I've a funny feeling he was answering that question.Last edited by John G; 08-04-2017, 01:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostSo there was no Jack the Ripper.
Someone killed each one of them Simon. That's a historical fact.
So what do you mean when you say "there was no Jack the Ripper"?
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Hi Hunter,
A valid point.
So there was no Jack the Ripper.
Regards,
Simon
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I believe it was the late Christopher Hitchens who said, " What can be asserted without evidence can easily be dismissed without evidence."
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostRead John G's post, and then you'll understand what I meant. It had nothing to do with any number of victims.
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostYour explanation of Pizer's change of mind is hilarious. It could well go down as one of the great Ripperologisms of all time.
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostPlease do not presume to know better than me regarding something you know nothing about.
If I remember rightly it was all about someone who knows nothing about Special Branch operations in 1888 telling someone else who knows nothing about Special Branch operations in 1888 about a Special Branch operation in 1888. All very amusing and it certainly did it's job of covering up the complete absence of any explanation as to why the same person who murdered the other women did not also murder Kelly.
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Originally posted by John G View PostHi Simon,
Thanks for reply and clarification!
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Hi David,
Read John G's post, and then you'll understand what I meant. It had nothing to do with any number of victims.
Your explanation of Pizer's change of mind is hilarious. It could well go down as one of the great Ripperologisms of all time.
Please do not presume to know better than me regarding something you know nothing about.
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostOver 12 years, I reserve the right to revise my opinion.
Were you trying to clarify that you meant that the same individual murdered three women or were you being deliberately obtuse and misleading?
If the former, which three women were you referring to?
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostPizer denied he was known as Leather Apron, and then - hey presto - revised his opinion.
It. is. not. rocket. science.
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostMy leg was not pulled
Do you think that Mary Kelly was murdered by Special Branch? Is that what you think you were told?
It's a complete joke, Simon, if that's the case.
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Originally posted by Michael W Richards View PostAll this nonsense about this supposed killer of Five women. The opinions of the contemporary investigators have been taken by so many as some official line drawn in the sand, despite the fact that no-one really knows the sincerity with which these opinions were given and there is zero evidence that links these Five women, or any 2 of these women for that matter, to a single killer.
Forensic evidence? That wasn't an option in 1888.
What we do have is an unprecedented outbreak of murders in a small localized area over a short period of time, a subset of which include post-mortem mutilation/evisceration/organ removal. Even the contemporary police quickly cottoned on that this was a serial murderer at work, and this was a brand new concept to them!
Let's go with the Turnbullian (emphasis on the "bull") logic that all five were carried out by different individuals. Five different individuals, all independently of one another, decided to go out into the street and start slashing & mutilating prostitutes in the same period of time. All of them had the disposition and the skill to do this and all of them managed to get away with it, but despite these synchronised rippers, the murder series almost completely ceased after a few months? Why?
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