Let’s Talk About Plagiarism

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post


    You’re stunned by his stupidity?

    Really?

    Monty
    I don’t really know anything about him so I don’t know what form he might have? Obviously the dishonesty is the main point though.

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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    The saddest fact is that some of the contributors might have some good articles. I'll never find out, I'm not shelling out £20 when I already own the Begg/ Bennett book. Sorry H Division, but you've been massively let down here.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    One thing that stuns me about the piece (in the link that you posted) was that it was simply a general intro. It’s not even as if he was pinching research or an idea or theory from Paul or John. Who couldn’t write a simple intro to the case without copying someone else’s work? And then to hope that no one else would notice, least of all the authors themselves!

    You’re stunned by his stupidity?

    Really?

    Monty

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post

    It is the authors responsibility that the content submitted to the publishers is true.

    As it seems one person has signed the contract, and has taken ownership of the works, then they are solely responsible for its content.

    If I were Cobb, I’d have ensured Strides content was honest. However, given the formers track record for content theft, I’m not surprised.

    Monty
    One thing that stuns me about the piece (in the link that you posted) was that it was simply a general intro. It’s not even as if he was pinching research or an idea or theory from Paul or John. Who couldn’t write a simple intro to the case without copying someone else’s work? And then to hope that no one else would notice, least of all the authors themselves!

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  • Losmandris
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Take a close look at the text.

    Clearer?

    https://jtrforums.com/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=58

    Monty
    Ouch!

    Tristan

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
    Strangely enough, I've just requested a certain JTR book from my local library.

    I cancel it tomorrow.

    This sort of dialogue can only help folks like me, who are trying to access honest, unbiased and "original" research.
    You are lucky your library will obtain a copy. I’m guessing Pen & Sword are far more reliable in delivering their works than Secret Chambers books, who happily take your money but fail to come up with the goods.

    However thats a different, and yet another, issue.

    Monty

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by jmenges View Post
    We know Cobb plagiarized CSI Whitechapel and according to the book's copyright Cobb could be held accountable for "Keith Stride's" chapter too, regardless of who "Keith Stride" turns out to be.

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    JM
    It is the authors responsibility that the content submitted to the publishers is true.

    As it seems one person has signed the contract, and has taken ownership of the works, then they are solely responsible for its content.

    If I were Cobb, I’d have ensured Strides content was honest. However, given the formers track record for content theft, I’m not surprised.

    Monty
    Last edited by Monty; 10-15-2019, 05:10 AM.

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  • jmenges
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    We know Cobb plagiarized CSI Whitechapel and according to the book's copyright Cobb could be held accountable for "Keith Stride's" chapter too, regardless of who "Keith Stride" turns out to be.

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    JM

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Take a close look at the text.

    Clearer?

    https://jtrforums.com/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=58

    Monty
    If I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes I wouldn’t have believed it. Disgrace.

    You said “one or two” Monty. Has another contributor done the same trick?
    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 10-14-2019, 10:34 PM.

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
    Strangely enough, I've just requested a certain JTR book from my local library.

    I cancel it tomorrow.

    This sort of dialogue can only help folks like me, who are trying to access honest, unbiased and "original" research.
    On second thoughts, I'll go ahead and read it.

    Should be interesting, albeit in a strange way.

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Strangely enough, I've just requested a certain JTR book from my local library.

    I cancel it tomorrow.

    This sort of dialogue can only help folks like me, who are trying to access honest, unbiased and "original" research.

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  • etenguy
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    Is that a one off? Of all the paragraphs to plagiarise, this seems the most unnecessary.

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  • Monty
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    I don’t think enough can be said.

    Other authors submitted their pieces in good faith. Yet one or two have chosen to steal text from two of the most prominent and respected people in the field.

    Either they do not respect these individuals (fellow authors along with those plagiarised), or they are that stupid they didnt think they would get caught out.

    Charlatans and cranks.

    Monty.

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  • Ms Diddles
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    Ahhh!

    Got it!

    Thanks Monty.

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  • mpriestnall
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    Thanks Monty.

    Enough said. Literally.
    Last edited by mpriestnall; 10-14-2019, 05:29 PM.

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