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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Addy View Post
    Ooookkkaaaayyyy I think I kniw enough! Thank you Herlock, for your comments! Iíll skip this one, Freemasons and astrology and esoterics are not my cup of tea.
    As Dusty said, the guys put in a lot of time and effort but thatís about it. Nothing new of value here.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
    I just realised I read it a which book you are talking about, I read it a couple of months ago. There's a lot of work gone into it, and I guess you have to respect that, but unfortunately it has holes you could drive a giant redwood on the back of a truck through!
    That about sums it up for me too Dusty. He goes from looking into an aspect of the case to an undeniable conclusion far too often and far too quickly for me. He then follows up with the an priori position.

    We know that these murders were a design so letís find out what the design was

    then its..

    We know that these were Freemasonic murders so.....

    Then he plucks Treves out of the hat!

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  • Addy
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    Ooookkkaaaayyyy I think I kniw enough! Thank you Herlock, for your comments! Iíll skip this one, Freemasons and astrology and esoterics are not my cup of tea.

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  • drstrange169
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    I just realised I read it a which book you are talking about, I read it a couple of months ago. There's a lot of work gone into it, and I guess you have to respect that, but unfortunately it has holes you could drive a giant redwood on the back of a truck through!

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Well.....sorry itís not a running commentary on this one Barn but I just couldnít manage it. This book was hard going for me. I donít envy Paul Begg if he decides to do a proper review.

    Ill admit to skimming much of the Freemasonic stuff and the statistical stuff and the astrological stuff but Iíve read it. I really couldnít read all of it though and thatís unheard of for me. Itís way too long and I have nothing against long books. Iíll be interested to hear a proper review by someone that reads every bit of it so Iíll accept the criticism that Iíve done a whole lot of skimming but my eyes were just glazing over.

    Positives - the guy has done a hell of a lot of work on this. Maybe a hint of obsessiveness? Maybe Iím being unfair?

    Negatives - Way too much use of statistical analysis for my liking which he says absolutely proves that the murders were Freemasonic.
    Way too much over-confidence. He says stuff like - the rippers familiarity with the murder scenes is well established. He makes interpretations and states them as proven facts.
    He says early in the book that the ripper clearly had an agenda and that he intends to discover it - I smell an agenda here too. I think that he began with the notion of a Freemasonic murder and then did some shoehorning.
    He talks about Astrology!
    He uses some esoteric method of solving the GSG!
    He believes that the Ripper was Sir Frederick Treves and has found images in the background of a portrait of Treves relating to the murders.

    Sorry about the negativity but I want my four quid back.
    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 06-08-2019, 10:10 PM.

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Hey Herlock,
    It's really good getting critical inputs as someone makes their way through a book.

    Keep posting this way, I'm genuinely intrigued.

    ​​​​​

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Itís the Freemasons

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Ok Iím now 22% through the book and Iím fearing the worst. Far too much statistical stuff for me. Heís concluded that the murder sites werenít random so Iím kind of expecting a conspiracy (heís already made a passing reference to Black Magic.) Its quite well written though and heís certainly put in a lot of work so I should pre-judge. Itís certainly no throwaway book. I just donít like statistical analysis and that kind of stuff. He does tend toward over-confidence when he says that the ripper must have had knowledge of the murder sites though.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
    I have never seen it Herlock.

    Do you know if any copies of Ripperana are available online?
    No Barn. They were always hardcopy. Little A5 pamphlets. To be honest the ripper content lessened over the years but it was well worth getting. I have around 80+. I have a friend who has them all.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ripp...tC0ui5qoo4fjM:

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    I have never seen it Herlock.

    Do you know if any copies of Ripperana are available online?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
    Hello Barn,

    i think you mean Ripperologist?


    Once again your'e right Herlock.
    I've been all over the place this week.

    I think I need to listen to John Prine for a few hours.

    Or do I mean Blaze Foley?


    Its gonna be strange not getting Ripperana delivered. End of an era.

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Hello Barn,

    i think you mean Ripperologist?


    Once again your'e right Herlock.
    I've been all over the place this week.

    I think I need to listen to John Prine for a few hours.

    Or do I mean Blaze Foley?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post

    I hadn't heard of this book Addy.

    Here is the link to the Amazon page relating to the book.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper...s=books&sr=1-1

    I note that it is an ebook 700 pages long, if that is true, I think that it is probably the longest book ever written on the subject.

    It is only £4.43 for the Kindle edition, so it might be worth a punt.

    If you do buy it, please post on the boards what you think of it.

    It may be reviewed in a future Ripperana.
    Hello Barn,

    i think you mean Ripperologist?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Iíve now got it and Iíve read 12% so far. The author is taking a very logic/science approach which is no bad thing of course.

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  • Addy
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    Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post

    I hadn't heard of this book Addy.

    Here is the link to the Amazon page relating to the book.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper...s=books&sr=1-1

    I note that it is an ebook 700 pages long, if that is true, I think that it is probably the longest book ever written on the subject.

    It is only £4.43 for the Kindle edition, so it might be worth a punt.

    If you do buy it, please post on the boards what you think of it.

    It may be reviewed in a future Ripperana.
    I will let you know what I think! It might be a while, my bday is end of June and it might be one of the presents then. But Iíll let you know!

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