Jack the Ripper A-Z

[mariab]

Wow, and I was using “William“ Wess, following the lead of Lynn Cates. (This kinda shutters my world.)

[Natalie Severn]

I am sorry that I made the above remark --I was just being playful and hadnt realised there was a bit of a spat going on,
Norma

[mariab]

It's kind of a “shitsy“ situation (as in Domashitsy). And at least I'm gratefuly I wasn't born in this town of Domashitsy, current Belarus. (But then I might have been a better figure skater, as many of them come from such obscure places, and end up getting the Russian citizenship and competing in the Olympics.)
Na, how was that for a digression away from this thread's subject?

[Natalie Severn]

Hi Maria! Anglo Saxon words dont have names with ****$ in them but there are loads of Ramsbottoms and Shufflebottoms out there that nearly always end up being pronounced and even spelt differently until the name becomes barely recognisable!
Norma

[mariab]

There's even a certain weaver called Nick Bottom in Shakespeare, but, unlike the Diemster, he was named like that for a reason.

[Natalie Severn]

Quite right! Shakespeare loved his bottom character and wheeled him on whenever there was a break of scene.And he usually had him telling lots of rude jokes....Oh dear---its getting past my bedtime!

[mariab]

My bedtime probably won't happen at all tonight, as I'm sitting on deadline for 2 German proposals (both on the same subject, but for different purposes and from a different angle). Thus the extreme procrastinating by posting here on casebook...

[Tom_Wescott]

Wow, and I was using “William“ Wess, following the lead of Lynn Cates.

Lynn was leading you correctly. This is the name he went by. Just as Charles Lechmere went by Cross, so it is more accurate to refer to him by that name in regards to Ripperology.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

To Tom Wescott:
Do you mean that Wess changed his name from “Woolf“ to “William“? Ah, for crying out loud (“wolf“). I have no clue whatsoever who this Charles Lechmere going by Cross dude is, and no time whatsoever to look it up, but it sounds like another Jewish name change/transliteration...

[Tom_Wescott]

Charles Cross is the man who found Polly Nichols' body. Some researchers have taken to calling him Lechmere because this was his original name, although he was going by Cross by the time of the murders.

And yes, Wess, like many Jewish men, anglicized his name to William. Philip Krantz's real name was Jacob Rombro. Isaac Kozebrodski changed his name to 'Isaacs'. Sometimes, as in Krantz's case, it wasn't about anglicizing your name, but about hiding your identity.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

Actually (and naturally) I knew about Charles Cross, but yesterday I was in a not so normal state and in quite a bit of a strain due to 2 German proposals on deadline hanging over my head which I didn't quite feel like taking care off. (But they're done now, so I can breath freely again.)
Thus, many, many apologies.
I knew about Isaac Kozebrodski, but not that Jacob Rombro was Philip Krantz's real name. No need for anyone to explain to me that Rombro changed his identity for political and safety reasons.
By the by, the one of the 2 proposals I've prepared (for a job at the Center Marc Bloch, which is an explicitly socialist Franco-German institution) is SO full of socialist jargon that it probably sounds like written by Philip Krantz himself – or even by Karl Marx. I'll ask Lynn Cates if he wants to read it, since he reads German – just for jolly. The other proposal was the exact same subject, but intended for a conference (on music sociology) at a Catholic institution, thus I insisted on the “post traumatic stress syndrome“ brought up on 2 generations of Europeans by the French Revolution (in its reception on the opera stage). Am I a total sellout/whore or what? I feel like I possess the ethics of Tom Bulling.

[Tom_Wescott]

Are you uttering stentorian Ha Ha Ha's? If not, you're okay. As for modern socialists, they're fun and easy to mess with, so you should have a blast working there.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

Stentorian “Ha, ha, ha“s have not occurred yet. And actually it's not about really “working“ there, thankfully, but being appointed with a fellowship, doing my own stuff, and giving speeches and colloquia and whatnot on regular occasions. (Kinda like the gig I have in Paris, only that one is better paid and for just research.) Coincidentally it totally fits with the subject of my dissertation, so I'd be stupid not to use it. I just took my neutral (and very insightful) writings from my dissertation and buffed them up in socialist jargon. I'm sure Lynn will have a blast with it, if he has time to read it. It's just 4 pages.

[Tom_Wescott]

You should read it to Lynn over candlelight and an oyster dinner.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

Mmm, this text fits better with sitting on the pavement in cold, rainy weather, eating stale black bread with one's frozen, numb fingers.
Oh, and candlelight, oyster dinner? Maybe this is typical for Paris, but for me? Try eating on the floor (well, carpet) like Aaron Koz, and a minute ago I accidentally put my foot inside my cup of coffee. (As I'm using the couch as a desk, sitting on the floor when working.)
OK, are we banned yet from this thread?