About JtR 21st Century Investigation

[Debra A]

One thing I forgot to mention, A man named John Skinner first confessed to this murder in 1870, and went on to confess a further four separate times, right up until 1880. He got a drunk and disorderly charge and was dismissed from court.

[Monty]

Seeing as Trevor states Eddowes torn apron was actually placed in Goulston Street by her after use as a sanitry towel, I wouldnt be surprised if he states Jackson chopped herself up whilst shaving her legs and accidently fell into the Thames.

Monty.

[Chris Scott]

And the 1872 Coram Street murder

The Times
27 December 1872

[Chris Scott]

Here's a report on the 1863 Jackson murder

The Times
11 April 1863

[Debra A]

Thanks for clarifying that Alan,

The Emma Jackson murder is an interesting case in itself though, and has a bit in common with the Whitechapel murders story wise if nothing else. A polish man suspected and arrested, a drowned man found floating in St Katherine's dock suspected, numerous confessions from wandering drunks and lunatics, eye photography (which was considered by experts would be ineffective even in 1863!), partition walls, locked doors, thimbles, body repositioned on the bed after the throat was cut....motiveless.

[Ash]

Yes, these do appear to be the "earlier murders" in question. I've just written the story up for RNE.

http://extra.rippernotes.com/?p=96

This will come as no surprise, Mr Marriott seems to make a habit of making amazing discoveries that everyone already knew about. Anyone who has read the Twentieth Century Investigation will be aware that the first few pages are taken up by his amazing discovery that there are more than five murders in the police files for the Whitechapel Murders, something apparently nobody had spotted before he came along!

[Debra A]

I'm curious to learn what the new material about Jack promised for the new book is about. The references to earlier murders of prostitutes that are unknown of is curious, as we know of quite a few already. There were also new images promised.

Dan,
Apparently they are the 1863 murder of Emma Jackson and the Harriet Busewell Great Coram Street murder, Both well known. In fact, I seem to remember a thread on casebook before the crash, which Trevor was involved in, where he was asking about other cut throat murders and I mentioned these two cases as being the only other two unsolved cut throat murders that I could personally bring to mind at the time, in fact I was approached after that post to see if I wanted to write something on them for an article.

Maybe Trevor has discovered some others, I'm not sure as I only saw these two mentioned in a link provided by JM on another thread.

Marriott, from the BBC

http://tinyurl.com/6567y5

JM

[Dan Norder]

Be aware that there are two editions of Marriott's book out. The first doesn't name a suspect (only suggesting that it was some unknown sailor. By the second edition the author had decided that Carl Feigenbaum was the Ripper.

I'm curious to learn what the new material about Jack promised for the new book is about. The references to earlier murders of prostitutes that are unknown of is curious, as we know of quite a few already. There were also new images promised.

[Uncle Jack]

Good day Nemesis.

In regards to your question about if Marriott's 21st Century Investigation is good - well the answer is it really depends on who you ask on these message boards. I personally think Marriott's Jack the Ripper: 21st Century Investigation is a really great read and, aside from him trying to connect world wide murders to Jack, I think he presents a very good case for his chosen suspect, albeit one which relies on circumstancial evidence. But then again, most theories do. I would recommend that you purchase the book because, even if you are not convinced by Trevor's case against his suspect, it is very informative and helpful, especially since Trevor Marriott is a murder detective and has dealt with many killers, thus having lots of personal and professional experience. A particular highlight for me in his book is that of his dissections of the other suspects, most notably, Kosminski.

As for his new book, The Evil Within, it primararly focuses on known serial killers. It also contains a whole new additional chapter on his Jack the Ripper case and his suspect. I have only just received this book this morning so cannot tell you if it is good or not, but based on Marriott's Ripper book, I imagine this new publishing will be very good.

Best regards!

Adam

[Nemesis Legion]

I got a Casebook private message about the new edition of Trevor Marriott book The Evil Within, apparently its got some new gooey information on our friend ol’ Wacky Jack. I just wanted to know from fellow Casebookers if his books 'Jack The Ripper The 21st Century Investigation' and 'The Evil Within' books are good - if so I’ll look into them

From the private message below:

"I also uncovered two more murders of prostitutes in London which occured many years before the murders generally accepted as the work of Jack The Ripper. In the light of my findings these now should not be dismissed as these women could quite easily have been the first victims of Jack The Ripper. - All of this new evidence is published in an extended chapter on Jack The Ripper in my new book published on September 6th 2008 titled ‘The Evil Within’."

I await your input…