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  • DarkPassenger
    started a topic My JTR book - a humble request for support :)

    My JTR book - a humble request for support :)



    So I've gone and done it...I'm currently writing my own Jack book, which I will self-publish with Amazon upon completion. Trying to keep it as close to the evidence as possible, trying to bust myths, avoid "Hollywood" theories, trying to wade through the mess (the whole Kosminski business gave me a headache but I think I have it all figured out), and I'm trying most of all to humanise the victims.

    But I have one pressing matter that I particularly would like some help with...

    Pictures!

    I'm obviously wishing to put in plenty of photos, diagrams, etc., but I'm a novice at this and I'm worried about copyright issues. Assuming most, or all, of the photos I wish to use are public domain by now, but I want to be sure, and with self-publishing I need to cross my t's and dot my i's.

    Can anyone help please

  • etenguy
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    Originally posted by DarkPassenger View Post
    It appears the mortuary photos of the victims are all public domain in the UK. This really is a tricky topic.
    Hi Dark Passenger

    I can't confidently help you directly with your question, but I have a suggestion. I'm a member of an online writers site which has many published and self published authors. Copyright is only one of the issues you will have to navigate. They are a generous bunch on that site and you might find it useful to join and ask them to share their experience, which they happily will.

    The site is scribophile.com and you can join for free - though there is also a paid membership option if you wish. You'll find support around covers, publishing, how amazon works etc... and you might find a beta reader (if you haven't already found one). Agents on the site should be able to help with copyright, though when it has come up before they tend to end with - this is general advice - get a legal eagle to check it out before you publish.

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  • Sleuth1888
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    Good luck with your book!

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  • DJA
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    Reckon you are pretty safe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...yright_lengths

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  • DarkPassenger
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    It appears the mortuary photos of the victims are all public domain in the UK. This really is a tricky topic.

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  • Ozzy
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    Does anyone know if the photo of Annie Chapman and her husband is geninue?
    If I recall correctly (IIRC) that picture surfaced when somebody from the Chapman family gave it to author Neal Shelden. He was researching the victims, was in touch with somebody from the family and again, IIRC, he couldn't believe it when this family person turned up with the photo. I don't think the provenance could be any better.

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    Good luck with the book DarkPassenger. I recently listened to a podcast, and I was already aware of the book, about Arthur Conan Doyle being these authors' suspect and the reasons given I wouldn't even call the most flimsiest of circumstantial evidence. I almost made a post here about how I annoyed it made me as there was nobody in the house at the time to vent my feelings to. I say authors as the book is by two people. I think both are doctors. At least one of them is. If my doctor came out with such a book I'd question his sanity and move to another doctor.
    Last edited by Ozzy; 09-16-2017, 05:19 AM.

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  • DarkPassenger
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    I've managed to sort out my main map issue!

    Now I'm wondering about this map - http://www.casebook.org/official_documents/map/ - specifically the murder scenes selections noted at the bottom of the page. I'd like to use a couple of them in my book if possible but again, not a clue about the copyright situation. I'm assuming I could, but *holds head in hands* who knows?

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  • DJA
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    Originally posted by DarkPassenger View Post
    Okay guys...this map situation is a nightmare. Literally this is a major thing stalling my progress. I've produced small-scale maps to show certain locations but what I could kill for is a map of the murder sites across Whitechapel (canonical five). I'm still trying to ensure I'm not stepping on toes copyright wise, what advice can you give me?


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._7_murders.JPG

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Apologies!
    The authors are Evans and Gainey.

    Doh!

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  • barnflatwyngarde
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    Originally posted by DarkPassenger View Post
    Okay guys...this map situation is a nightmare. Literally this is a major thing stalling my progress. I've produced small-scale maps to show certain locations but what I could kill for is a map of the murder sites across Whitechapel (canonical five). I'm still trying to ensure I'm not stepping on toes copyright wise, what advice can you give me?
    I agree with you that accessing clear, accurate and easy to understand maps ais a real problem.

    The best map that I have seen is in "The Lodger: Arrest and Escape of Jack the Ripper" by Evans and Skinner, although it doesn't cover the breadth of area I would have preferred.

    Have you checked out the "Scene of the Crimes" section in the "Message Boards" on the forum?

    There are loads of maps scattered about there.

    Good luck.

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  • DarkPassenger
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    Okay guys...this map situation is a nightmare. Literally this is a major thing stalling my progress. I've produced small-scale maps to show certain locations but what I could kill for is a map of the murder sites across Whitechapel (canonical five). I'm still trying to ensure I'm not stepping on toes copyright wise, what advice can you give me?

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  • DarkPassenger
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    I've just written a suggestion in my final chapter that's going to really irk a lot of you. When you read it, just...go easy.
    That said I think I cannot call myself a true Ripperologist until a Casebooker has savaged my work in a dissertation!

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  • DarkPassenger
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    Believe it or not, maps are a major issue I'm having. I'm committed to hand-drawing a Whitechapel map for use in all the contexts I require rather than even attempting to use any I find online! It appears that is the preferred method used by contemporary writers, too!

    Thanks everyone for your support and advice! I'm going to piss quite a few of you off with the conclusions I've come to in this book but trust me, you're not nearly as pissed as I am at what I am now having to consider the facts of the case. The truth is far more amazing than any fiction. I really look forward to getting this project finished and in print!

    I'm writing my final chapter, outlining the suspect the evidence has lead me to. Someone I'd long dismissed. Exciting!

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  • Simon Webb
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    Thanks, PC Dunn.

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  • Callmebill
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    Well done. With copyright you'll be all right with most countries, if not all, using contemporary engravings - it's over a century. If you find something you'd like to use, and it's not out of copyright, just ask the person ... most likely for a return link or reference they'll agree to you using the data. Good luck with your book.

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