Ripper Confidential by Tom Wescott (2017)

[Elamarna]

Do chill, Steve! Iīd say itīs even conjecture, more or less, that he left home at 3.30. It is certainly not a corroborated fact.
But saying that the "rest" is conjecture is wrong - there are many facts involved that are not conjecture at all. If they were, the Lechmere theory would be a baseless assumption, and it is not by any means.

However, it IS an assumption, but I think we all knew that before you posted.

Fish you are the one who needs to chill, my comment was mainly in fun hence the wink.

Steve

[Fisherman]

Fish, no he was a man who left home at about 3.30. The rest is conjecture

Do chill, Steve! Iīd say itīs even conjecture, more or less, that he left home at 3.30. It is certainly not a corroborated fact.
But saying that the "rest" is conjecture is wrong - there are many facts involved that are not conjecture at all. If they were, the Lechmere theory would be a baseless assumption, and it is not by any means.

However, it IS an assumption, but I think we all knew that before you posted.

[Elamarna]

Robert Mann, Abby. Charles was the killer, remember?

Fish, no he was a man who left home at about 3.30. The rest is conjecture

[Fisherman]

He was in the worst ripper doc I've ever see. It was claiming Charles Mann was the ripper.

Robert Mann, Abby. Charles was the killer, remember?

[Debra A]

To be fair, as far as I know he only got one fact wrong(I think it was Gordon who made numerous mistakes) and I thought overall his research was pretty good.

Trow made more than one error, but his book was well written.

[John G]

Oh yeah that dude. Forgot he did one on the torsos. He was in the worst ripper doc I've ever see. It was claiming Charles Mann was the ripper. And he had so many basic facts wrong in his torso book, not sure you could call him a historian.
His research was pretty lame as I recall. Not impressed with that dude at all. Pass.

To be fair, as far as I know he only got one fact wrong(I think it was Gordon who made numerous mistakes) and I thought overall his research was pretty good.

[Fisherman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vppbdf-qtGU

Ah - yes, thatīs a killer, Jerry!

[Fisherman]

question-Is there even a book on the torsos by anybody???

There are two, "The Thames Torso Murders of Victorian London" by Michael Gordon and "The Thames Torso Murders" by Mei Trow. Contrary to John G, I think that Trows book is not a good effort. To my mind, Gordons book is the better one, but that does sadly not mean that itīs really good. Gordon has made his mind up that George Chapman was the Ripper and the Torso killer, and to try and prove it, he takes the wrong turn every now and then. For example, he leaves out the 1873 and 1874 torso murders (because Chapman was too young to have been able to be the killer), and adds the Salamanca Place torso (that was nothing even remotely like the "real" torso murders).

To even mention the prospect of a book by Debra in the same sentence as these two books would be ridiculous. If she ever writes it, it will emphatically surpass Mess:rs Gordon and Trow and - I dare say - put them to shame.

[jerryd]

Le Grange? Is that a hybridization of Grainger and Le Grand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vppbdf-qtGU

[Fisherman]

Who says he still isn't in the throws of Le Grange fever?

Le Grange? Is that a hybridization of Grainger and Le Grand?

[Dane_F]

When I first joined these hallowed halls you were in the throws of legrange fever. Lol. I thought it was pretty cool.

Who says he still isn't in the throws of Le Grange fever?

[Abby Normal]

If I didn't know you were a man, I'd kiss you!

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

When I first joined these hallowed halls you were in the throws of legrange fever. Lol. I thought it was pretty cool.

[Tom_Wescott]

I wouldn't put you in the same category as him Tom. And I mean that in a good way.

If I didn't know you were a man, I'd kiss you!

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Abby Normal]

LOL. Goodonya. Score one for us pretend historians.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

I wouldn't put you in the same category as him Tom. And I mean that in a good way.

[Tom_Wescott]

Oh yeah that dude. Forgot he did one on the torsos. He was in the worst ripper doc I've ever see. It was claiming Charles Mann was the ripper. And he had so many basic facts wrong in his torso book, not sure you could call him a historian.
His research was pretty lame as I recall. Not impressed with that dude at all. Pass.

LOL. Goodonya. Score one for us pretend historians.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott