Ep. #44 The Chapman-Ripper Theory: w/ R Michael Gordon

[thewastelandr]

Thank you!!! I was lost without my weekly Rippercast fix...

[jmenges]

'I'm moving to California...'

Will it be big enough for you, JM?

It should be, AP.

Thanks for asking,

JM

[halomanuk]

I can't even get i-tunes to recognise my i-pod all the time at the moment,neither can my daughter or her friends so i think i-tunes is playing up all round.
Anybody else had this problem ??

[Cap'n Jack]

'I'm moving to California...'

Will it be big enough for you, JM?

[jmenges]

There is a right-click link on each particular episode's podcast page.

I re downloaded the show via iTunes today and it worked fine. Please keep me informed about whatever problems you may be having with the downloads so I can continue to trouble-shoot them if need be.

FYI- We're off until the first part of May since I'm moving to California.

Thanks for listening!



JM

[thewastelandr]

Which page should I try downloading it from?

[Natalie Severn]

I have had the same problem-but my computer has been playing up anyway lately.I thought I had sorted it out but its just refused to down load some photos sent to me today .So I"ll try again tomorrow -----via itunes!
Thanks for the tip.
Norma

[GordonH]

Is it just me, or is iTunes not letting us download this episode?

It worked for me at the time via my podcast subscription for rippercast.
You can manually download the file from the page and add it to your itunes library if you get stuck.

[thewastelandr]

technical problems

Is it just me, or is iTunes not letting us download this episode?

[Natalie Severn]

I'm not sure, Nats, especially if Mr Haddin/Radin had more than one shop - it might even have been a tax dodge to have someone else put his name down on his behalf!

I just wish I had a copy of that Directory, that's all!

So do I Sam,so do I!

[Natalie Severn]

welcome back Natalie ... it doesn't matter if he owned the shops, so much as he was living in the area at that time... i'd be surprised if they were his shops anyway, he would've been too young at that time to have that much money.

Thanks Malcolm,
We know he was living at 70 West India Dock Road for some five months of 1888 -the period when the Radins lived there and had him as their lodger and assistant.West India Dock Road was well accessible to anyone living in Whitechapel,it being within easy reach by tram or by foot via Cable Street or Whitechapel High Street.
However,how I see it is that he is recorded in the Post Office Directory as being at 126 Cable Street,where there was a barber shop,which he is understood to have been in charge of ie by those who have researched him to date.He must have been doing something to do with this address in December 1888,if not much earlier in 1888,due to the necessity of his entry into the Post Office Directory by December 1888.Presumably he had previously "checked out" the area of Cable Street? Its a spooky place even today with one side of it,the opposite side to his shop, comprised solely of looming Victorian railway arches-Pinchin Street abutts Cable Street, where the "headless torso" was found in September 1889.Chapman"s address at this time,is given in the Post Office Directory,as 126 Cable Street.Some writers have put this "murder" victim of Pinchin Street down as an "abortion gone wrong".Barber surgeon"s were known to occasionally have run a "sideline" as abortionists.An "unattached" barber surgeon such as Chapman with his own premises - almost certainly including a basement-could have got up to all sorts once the shop was shut.We need to find out all we can about this particular address.Its still there I think.

[Malcolm X]

Hi Sam,
Am I right,though, in saying he must have been the tenant/ keyholder for number 126 Cable Street?After all it is down as "his" address for the year 1889 [ meaning he must have been there at least by December 1888 in order to have been in time for that 1889 entry into the 1889 P. O. Directory etc]. Had there been another "co-manager" surely that too would have been entered in the directory? I wasnt suggesting btw, he had done anything other than "rented" these premises.But I think it very likely it was he who had the keys-crucial to any prospect of continued hanky panky,either by way of trying out them wigs ,hair dyes and other disguises........ or indeed carrying out an even more secret or sinister "sideline".

welcome back Natalie ... it doesn't matter if he owned the shops, so much as he was living in the area at that time... i'd be surprised if they were his shops anyway, he would've been too young at that time to have that much money.

[Sam Flynn]

Had there been another "co-manager" surely that too would have been entered in the directory?

I'm not sure, Nats, especially if Mr Haddin/Radin had more than one shop - it might even have been a tax dodge to have someone else put his name down on his behalf!

I just wish I had a copy of that Directory, that's all!

[Natalie Severn]

Hi Sam,
Am I right,though, in saying he must have been the tenant/ keyholder for number 126 Cable Street?After all it is down as "his" address for the year 1889 [ meaning he must have been there at least by December 1888 in order to have been in time for that 1889 entry into the 1889 P. O. Directory etc]. Had there been another "co-manager" surely that too would have been entered in the directory? I wasnt suggesting btw, he had done anything other than "rented" these premises.But I think it very likely it was he who had the keys-crucial to any prospect of continued hanky panky,either by way of trying out them wigs ,hair dyes and other disguises........ or indeed carrying out an even more secret or sinister "sideline".

[Sam Flynn]

We don't know that it was his "very own barber-shop" either, Nats. He might have been "managing" it on behalf of somebody else. We know that he wasn't the owner of the shop under the White Hart, nor of Mr Haddin/Radin's at Tottenham (coincidentally, not far from White Hart Lane). Both of these "managerships/assistantships" came after his association with the Cable Street shop.