P.C Smith and William West

[Cap'n Jack]

Yes, I think Tom did, in that as he was carrying this volume he tripped over a foot scraper, propelled said volume at Dimshitz' pony, which balked, throwing Dimshutz into West, who just happened to be holding a fearsome twelve inch press cutter in his other hand, which as he fell sliced neatly through Stride's throat, then West picked himself up, retrieved his volume, said 'guten abend' to Demitasse and went to his shed to print out 'Der Arsebiter Frint'.
Meanwhile an hour later someone killed Elizabeth Stride.

[Jon Guy]

I remember a protracted battle I had with Tom last year where I maintained that this 'newspaper parcel' was nothing more than the normal newspaper parcel that fruit sellers used to wrap their wares, in this case it was sour black grapes of wrath.

Did anyone raise the following point during this protracted battle, AP, that at the time of Smiths sighting of a man carrying a newspaper parcel, William West was moving between the club by the side door and the printers office with some literature in his hands ?

[Cap'n Jack]

The 'Arbeiter Front' doesn't fold kindly. It resists efforts to conform it to any standard. It is after all quite rebellious. And bigger than it seems.

[Jon Guy]

I don't think that is 'smart'.

It is slightly more smarter than an 18 by 6 inch parcel to wrap fruit in.

[Cap'n Jack]

'Now , it was Tom Wescott`s smart observation that the this parcel could well of been literature of some kind, the kind produced in the printing shop at the rear of the club at no. 40 Berner St.'

That's 'smart'?
That a newspaper parcel could have been literature?
I remember a protracted battle I had with Tom last year where I maintained that this 'newspaper parcel' was nothing more than the normal newspaper parcel that fruit sellers used to wrap their wares, in this case it was sour black grapes of wrath.
Where Tom has fallen down in this regard is that he should be claiming that the newspaper in Stride's bonnet was the 'Arbeiter Front'.
Tom wants the involvement of the IWEC in Stride's murder badly.
I don't think that is 'smart'.

[Jon Guy]

Hello

PC Smith 452H walked down Berner Street at about 12.35 am and saw a man talking to a woman, whom he later identified as Liz Stride. Aside from the description of the man he also stated :

"I noticed he had a newspaper parcel in his hand. It was about 18 inches in length and 6 or 8 inches in width".

Now , it was Tom Wescott`s smart observation that the this parcel could well of been literature of some kind, the kind produced in the printing shop at the rear of the club at no. 40 Berner St.

William West, the overseer of the printing shop would state at the inquest that he :

" left the club at about 12.30am. Before leaving the club he had occasion to go to the printing office to put some literature there, he went into the yard by the passage door. thence to the printing office."

Was the man talking to Stride,William West ?

West then contradicts himself in his statement at the inquest :

" he remained in the club until the discovery of the deceased"

yet, he left with his brother, and Louis Stansley shortly after 12.30 ?