torso maps

[John Wheat]

dismemberment/dispersal is a method to hinder identification and slow down the investigation . The dismemberment could have been done in order to bring the body out in parts from a building so as not to be seen carrying a body but the dispersal was still done in an attempt to stop the police putting the pieces together.

All unlike The Ripper. Which you seem unable to grasp.

[RockySullivan]

All unlike The Ripper. Which you seem unable to grasp.

But if the killer was striking in the dark streets at night and gone in minutes what need is there to dismember or obscure the identification? It actually eliminates the need to hide the identity because its much harder to trace back to the killer. Bringing a living person to the killer's abode to murder them creates the possibility of witnesses and then he has to dismember to remove the body. Whereas if he's seen with a ripper victim shortly before the murder it's harder to find his identity.

[Sam Flynn]

Why put himself in a position to be seen by witnesses in the first place? The Ripper murders were the diametric opposite of the torso crimes in that respect alone, never mind the other differences.

[RockySullivan]

Why put himself in a position to be seen by witnesses in the first place? The Ripper murders were the diametric opposite of the torso crimes in that respect alone, never mind the other differences.

It's not really optional is it

[Sam Flynn]

It's not really optional is it

Yes it is. Kill and chop up indoors, or kill and eviscerate in a public place. Them's the options.

[RockySullivan]

Yes it is. Kill and chop up indoors, or kill and eviscerate in a public place. Them's the options.

there is still the risk of the victim seen with the killer near chopshop which could be home/work, dismemberment/clean up. Risk of storage until dispersal, issue of odor, risk of outdoor dispersal of the body parts and being caught red handed with a stinky torso.

[Sam Flynn]

Oh, for crying out loud!

[RockySullivan]

Oh, for crying out loud!

don't cry everybody is wrong sometimes

[John Wheat]

there is still the risk of the victim seen with the killer near chopshop which could be home/work, dismemberment/clean up. Risk of storage until dispersal, issue of odor, risk of outdoor dispersal of the body parts and being caught red handed with a stinky torso.

The Ripper and The Torso Killer were two different killers. Anyone who doesn't think so is an idiot.

[RockySullivan]

The Ripper and The Torso Killer were two different killers. Anyone who doesn't think so is an idiot.

Anytime you guys can't follow the argument with logic anymore, like in the case above of Sam claiming the torso killings would have no witnesses, you two cry or call us idiots.

[Sam Flynn]

in the case above of Sam claiming the torso killings would have no witnesses

I claimed no such thing. With comprehension that shaky, you're in no place to lecture anyone about logic.

[John Wheat]

Anytime you guys can't follow the argument with logic anymore, like in the case above of Sam claiming the torso killings would have no witnesses, you two cry or call us idiots.

You don't even know what logic is. If you did you'd realise the Ripper and the Torso Killer are two separate killers. I think you'll find myself and Sam are frustrated at what we see as two clearly separate killers and others inability to follow basic logic and realise that The Torso killer and Jack were two separate killers with totally separate M.O.'s.

[Abby Normal]

there is still the risk of the victim seen with the killer near chopshop which could be home/work, dismemberment/clean up. Risk of storage until dispersal, issue of odor, risk of outdoor dispersal of the body parts and being caught red handed with a stinky torso.

exactly both involve extreme risk-the ripper murders for being caught in the act in public, and the torsos for being caught soon after-evidence in his place, witnesses seeing the victim going into or in his place , caught with body parts trying to dispose.

[Abby Normal]

The Ripper and The Torso Killer were two different killers. Anyone who doesn't think so is an idiot.

Hi John
Please dont hold back. Let us know how you really feel. : )

[John Wheat]

Hi John
Please dont hold back. Let us know how you really feel. : )

I won't. And I stand by that statement.