Elizabeth Jackson murder account

[Mike Covell]

Hi Debra,

Great piece of writing, I have several "Torso" related press reports from the period, all from Hull newspapers, so I will have a dig and see what I can find.

Regards Mike

[Monty]

Debs,

I was led to believe that dismemberement was a gangland trait, you found anything on this or was I falsely led...again ?

Cheers
Monty

[Debra A]

Thanks Stan
I'd read about Elizabeth a while ago too, but apart from the mention of dismemberment, the actual details of the medical evidence were never given, mainly because the press were asked to supress those reports at the time I suppose. When I came across the torso victims medical details in the System of Legal medicine book a few years ago ( ...and I'm not claiming to be the first to do so here either! ) I was surprised that Elizabeth is not mentioned more than she is in connection with JTR.

Dismemberment for concealment of a body is one thing, but if there was a serial torso murderer at large at the same time as JTR and if Elizabeth was a victim of his, then he too was also into mutilation of his victims surely? Why remove flaps of abdominal flesh, a foetus from a womb via an incision after the victim is dead and then remove the womb from the body? What concealment/transportation purpose does that serve?
Most people separate dismemberment from mutilation, but Elizabeth seemed to have both aspects and I find this really interesting....even if no one else does

I'd be interested to know if anyone has any ideas on the 'plugging' of a certain part of the body that i uncovered in the press. I wonder how that points to a murderer with 'marine' knowledge?....anyone

[sdreid]

Hi Deb,

Thanks for that presentation. I first read about this case in Rumbelow's book back in the mid 1970s but the victim's name wasn't given there I don't believe.

The first I saw the name Elizabeth Jackson was in The Book of Lists, c. 1977. In that publication, Richard O'Neill listed her as one of "10 Possible Victims" (of JtR). The other 9 were the ones most commonly mentioned.

[Debra A]

I recently wrote an account of the murder of Elizabeth Jackson which I sent to Stephen to put on casebook.
Unfortunately it looks like Stephen will be busy sorting out the site for some time to come so I've posted the piece to the web for anyone who would like to read it. I think I have found something in the press reporting of the case that has not been published before.



Elizabeth Jackson murder


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