Elizabeth Jackson murder account

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  • Debra A
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    Thanks Mike, I survived the drilling to get back and have a poke around other papers for this story.
    There were two bodies found in the Regent's canal near Cambridge Heath, one 7th April 1891, which was the body of a 12 year old boy with his throat cut apparenly from ear to ear. Murder was initially suspected but a later verdict of 'found drowned' was given at the inquest. Most of the bones in the body were broken.

    The other was found was March 1891 and was a body of a woman with most of the bones and the internal organs missing from the body. Suicide was suspected in this case, with the medics giving the opinion that the mutilations were caused by barges and other crafts dragging the body along, and the internal organs being eaten by rats. [This is the case AP has posted up before]

    Both bodies seem to have gone in the canal whole though complete with their heads, and the damage to their bodies done by the busytraffic in the canal and not by dismemberment The skin on the female victim was wholly intact showing no signs of cutting and the bones looked to have been 'dragged' fom the body.

    I remember reading that while investigating the 1887 Rainham case police came into possession of a thigh found in the Regent's Canal that didn't correspond to the Rainham torso remains in any way, it was from an older person but no other parts ever turned up. Perhaps another 1887 victim?!

    p.s. forgot to say It doesn't mention the 1891 female body, or any part of it being wrapped in anything in the newspapers I looked at though.
    Last edited by Debra A; 02-26-2008, 05:46 PM.

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  • sdreid
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    Thanks Mike. That looks like the report I remember AP posting although it was likely in a different paper.

    It reminds me a lot of the so-called Rainham Mystery from 1887.
    Last edited by sdreid; 02-26-2008, 04:32 PM.

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  • Mike Covell
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    As requested Hull Daily Mail May 1891.
    The article quotes the "Star"
    I will begin posting all the Torso articles on the Torso Thread at some point.
    Mike
    Attached Files

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  • Monty
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    Hey Debs,

    I read the gangland thing years ago, last millenium I think it was.

    Man Im outta touch.

    Monty

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  • Mike Covell
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    Hi Debra, i will begin posting them after I have took my son to Nursary, I have some time booked in at the Local Studies today so I will trawl through 1889, 90 and 91.

    I found the Hull Daily Mail article whilst looking for Frederick Bailey Deeming reports.

    Regards Mike

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  • sdreid
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    Hi Deb,

    Again, if I'm remembering correctly, I think AP's post was a newspaper clipping. I'd guess it was about 6 months back.

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  • Debra A
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    Stan
    I think you're right, I haven't the best memory in the world, but I did trawl the chached wotsit archives thinking AP had probably posted something on this 1891 murder, but didn't find it...He should be here, it's not right without him.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by sdreid View Post
    With the absence of people like AP and Mr. P we've lost some good posters as well
    MrP is still with us, I'm glad to say. I hope Greyhunter and AP get back on line soon.

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  • sdreid
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    P.S.

    With the absence of people like AP and Mr. P, it seems that we've lost more than data in the crash; we've lost some good posters as well even if they were a little grumpy sometimes.

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  • sdreid
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    Hi all,

    It seems to me that AP posted something (pre-crash) about a torso victim around the 1891 time frame that I hadn't heard of before but maybe I'm not remembering it correctly.

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  • Debra A
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    Mike,
    Many thanks! It would be great if you could scan them and post them to the torso thread, I think i've seen one of those listed around here somewhere. I'm especially intrigued by the 'Hull Daily Mail May 1891 Regents Canal Torso'...I can't place an 1891 Regents canal one at the moment....can you post that one first?!...please please please

    Monty,
    I'll see you right...either when I get my new glasses or my inheritance from ggg uncle whisky Johnny comes through.

    Re the gangland thing, I know someone posted before the crash about the torsos and gangland connection, I think it may have been Pinkerton, although they didn't elaborate...wish they would though.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Debra A View Post
    Thanks for showing an interest Monty...a Lady Godiva was it?

    It certainly was Ms Walker

    MOnty

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  • Mike Covell
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    I have the following "Torso" reports
    Eastern Morning News, Thurs Sept 13th 88
    Eastern Morning News, Thurs Oct 4th 88
    Eastern Morning News, Saturday Oct 6th 88
    eastern Morning News, Tues Oct 18th 88
    Eastern Morning News, Wed Oct 19th 88
    Hull Daily Mail May 1891 Regents Canal Torso
    Hull and North Lincolnshire Times Sept 20th 1873 Thames Torso
    Hull and North Lincolnshire Times sept 30th 1873 Thames Torso
    Hull and East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Times Oct 13th 88 Whitehall
    Hull and East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Times Oct 20th 88 Whitehall



    Female bodies in Thames (No Mutilations)
    Eastern Morning News, Oct 8th 88
    Eastern Morning News Oct 9th 88

    Any of intrest I can scan and post them, any other dates send me a PM as I visit the library twice a week to print them off, and i will gladly get copies and send them to you or post them on here.

    Good luck with the work Mike
    (There were 4 Hull Newspapers reoprting the affairs in London during 1888 and later)

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  • Debra A
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    Thanks Mike,
    It would be great to see what you have newspaper report wise.

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  • Debra A
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    Thanks for showing an interest Monty...a Lady Godiva was it?

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