Prater's stairs

[Elamarna]

Yes I think it is a wonderful achievement by Richard.

[David Orsam]

On Richard's model, I can't offer any way of improving it and it's both great and amazing that a consensus seems to have been reached.

[David Orsam]

I can't help thinking that the "problem" would be very simple to resolve in any event. Once in through the main door, customers for the shop could turn left and enter the shop (which may or may not have its own door), while tenants could climb a staircase to the rented rooms protected by a door situated either at the bottom or the top of the staircase.

[Wickerman]

Do we know if there were any tenants in no.27? Maybe just the McCarthy family lived there.

In 1891, the Census shows three McCarthy families, plus two female domestics and one unrelated married couple, occupying No.27 Dorset St.

[MBDecre]

Do we know if there were any tenants in no.27? Maybe just the McCarthy family lived there.

That's a good point... do we know?

Maybe their mention can be found in the list of witnesses in newspapers or at the inquest re MJK's last hours.

It would resolve pierre's query.

[Elamarna]

Richardh,

I am trying to understand how you think since it is your thinking we will see when we look at the model.

So why is it obvious to you that the window belongs to 27 and is not only a port of an archway with a corridor between the houses?

Regards Pierre

Am not going to answer for Richard. But maybe he believes that the plan shows the 2 building have no link.

There is NO link on the plan is there? Yes or no will do

[Elamarna]

Pierre.

Seriously why do you think there are no doors other than the front door.?
You have seen that the goad map rarely shows doors.

[Joshua Rogan]

[B]So WHY is there no door in McCarthy´s side of the passage?

Did all the tenants really go through the front door, that is, through McCarthy´s shop?

Do we know if there were any tenants in no.27? Maybe just the McCarthy family lived there.

[Pierre]

Sorry Pierre, I don't know what you mean? Why do I think what was the plan?

If you mean why do I think #27 has the space while #26 doesn't then I can only say that, to me, it was a given that that the window belonged to #27.

Richardh,

I am trying to understand how you think since it is your thinking we will see when we look at the model.

So why is it obvious to you that the window belongs to 27 and is not only a port of an archway with a corridor between the houses?

Regards Pierre

[richardh]

If there WAS a doorway knocked through from #26 to #27 how has this any bearing on things?

If 27 went over the archway - how did the tenants in 27 get into their rooms?

Did McCarthy have a lot of people running out an in of his front door in 27?


The question is important since that wasn´t the case for the shop in number 26 (maybe a "shed" in 88 but according to Goad´s actually a shop). There was a door in that side of the passage. So the tenants did not have access to the front door.

So WHY is there no door in McCarthy´s side of the passage?

Did all the tenants really go through the front door, that is, through McCarthy´s shop?

Regards Pierre

[richardh]

Sorry Pierre, I don't know what you mean? Why do I think what was the plan?

If you mean why do I think #27 has the space while #26 doesn't then I can only say that, to me, it was a given that that the window belonged to #27.

Hi Richardh,

yes, it is looking good. But why do you think that was the plan?

Regards Pierre

[Pierre]

Richardh - an important question

If 27 went over the archway - how did the tenants in 27 get into their rooms?

Did McCarthy have a lot of people running out an in of his front door in 27?


The question is important since that wasn´t the case for the shop in number 26 (maybe a "shed" in 88 but according to Goad´s actually a shop). There was a door in that side of the passage. So the tenants did not have access to the front door.

So WHY is there no door in McCarthy´s side of the passage?

Did all the tenants really go through the front door, that is, through McCarthy´s shop?

Regards Pierre

[Pierre]

Like this Pierre:

Hi Richardh,

yes, it is looking good. But why do you think that was the plan?

Regards Pierre

[Wickerman]

Here's a very rough and dirty fly-thru so people can decide if this is the layout we should settle on.
Please take note of the partition and also decide if 'Prater's stairs' 'Prater's door' position and the walls/partition to the shed are viable.

YouTube:

There's no shadow or texture contrasts so details are sometimes hard to see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfW6atSWbzg

That, is eerie!

Well done Richard.

[Elamarna]

Wickerman,

good I think we agree.

This thread was meant to be about the position of the stair way; so not sure why the idea of access to 27 from 26 was ever raised by Pierre?