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Brenda, if it were done like that and she was facing him, there would be no wall to take the blood splatter, it must have gone close to the murder and out into the lobby of 26. there you go that must be Pierre’s evidence.t
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Wikerman,
i see it as a new interpretation, and if there is evidence to back it up who knows it may be the truth.
The problems i see at the moment are:
1. the suggestion that not only Abberline but Beck and Phillips perjured themselves.
2. the reason for moving the bed back for the police photo.
3. the apparent lack of evidence to back this up
the only reason for 1 would be to hide evidence, . the only reason i can think of for 2 is to mislead the inquest Jury.i
those are my main concerns
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Originally posted by Elamarna View PostI fear you will just get spun, and if you do manage to pin him down he will give you same answer in gave me on his last reply to me.
From what I understand of his theory , the bed was against the wall, he opened the door outward into number 26, reached in, cut Kellys throat, who slept while the door was being opened. he told me it had to be like this .
that i think sums it up Brenda
That Mary sure was a very sound sleeper!
If he reached in like that to cut Mary's throat, then he risked being covered in the spray of blood if she were facing his direction. And if she were facing in the other direction, the spray would have been in the opposite direction.
I'm starting to wonder if Jack was truly a lust serial killer or if his true passion was moving furniture.
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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostYour just jealous you didn't think it!
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Wickerman,
the idea it was originally cut for Ay is just a theory, there are no burial deposits outside the tomb for Him, it as just been assumed. I
f there is just one more chamber beyond the present burial chamber and a sealed store room off of the current one it is comparable to many of the tombs of queens and princes in the valley of the queens. it is considerably larger than nobles tombs in the valley of the kings such as Yuya and Tjuya. sorry off topic againLast edited by Elamarna; 11-28-2015, 04:41 PM.
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Originally posted by IchabodCrane View Post[Bowyer] continued: There was a curtain. I put my hand through the broken pane and lifted the curtain. I saw two pieces of flesh lying on the table.
[Coroner] Where was this table ? - In front of the bed, close to it. The second time I looked I saw a body on this bed, and blood on the floor.
Not: next to the bed, as it would have appeared to Bowyer looking through the window in Pierre's moved tables and beds scenario.
So in this theory, Bowyer, McCarthy, Philips and Abberline are devising a scheme to misinform the coroner and the public about the position in which the bed was in the room and how access was gained to the room.
And the cover-up works out perfectly: all four statements corroborate each other: the bed was against the wall and the room was entered into by forcing the main door! No mention of room no 26!
Only that 127 years later, in a future world of global interconnectivity and limitless access to information, a master sleuth/historian discovered the truth and uncovered the conspiracy simply by interpreting old floor plans and photographs.
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[Bowyer] continued: There was a curtain. I put my hand through the broken pane and lifted the curtain. I saw two pieces of flesh lying on the table.
[Coroner] Where was this table ? - In front of the bed, close to it. The second time I looked I saw a body on this bed, and blood on the floor.
Not: next to the bed, as it would have appeared to Bowyer looking through the window in Pierre's moved tables and beds scenario.
So in this theory, Bowyer, McCarthy, Philips and Abberline are devising a scheme to misinform the coroner and the public about the position in which the bed was in the room and how access was gained to the room.
And the cover-up works out perfectly: all four statements corroborate each other: the bed was against the wall and the room was entered into by forcing the main door! No mention of room no 26!
Only that 127 years later, in a future world of global interconnectivity and limitless access to information, a master sleuth/historian discovered the truth and uncovered the conspiracy simply by interpreting old floor plans and photographs.
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Originally posted by Elamarna View PostI fear you will just get spun, and if you do manage to pin him down he will give you same answer in gave me on his last reply to me.
From what I understand of his theory , the bed was against the wall, he opened the door outward into number 26, reached in, cut Kellys throat, who slept while the door was being opened. he told me it had to be like this . i quote from post 100 on this thread from him:
"It was against the wall since there was blood on the floor from cutting her throat. And how would Mary otherwise have gotten into the room..."
I am not sure i understand the last sentence.
Pierre then suggested the bed and table were moved to act as a barricade and only then did the mutilations start.
He then believes the murderer left by the side door, closed it on leaving. Finally some police officials moved the bed back for MJK1 after taking MJK3. he does not seem to be willing to say why the bed was moved back.
that i think sums it up Brenda
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I fear you will just get spun, and if you do manage to pin him down he will give you same answer in gave me on his last reply to me.
From what I understand of his theory , the bed was against the wall, he opened the door outward into number 26, reached in, cut Kellys throat, who slept while the door was being opened. he told me it had to be like this . i quote from post 100 on this thread from him:
"It was against the wall since there was blood on the floor from cutting her throat. And how would Mary otherwise have gotten into the room..."
I am not sure i understand the last sentence.
Pierre then suggested the bed and table were moved to act as a barricade and only then did the mutilations start.
He then believes the murderer left by the side door, closed it on leaving. Finally some police officials moved the bed back for MJK1 after taking MJK3. he does not seem to be willing to say why the bed was moved back.
that i think sums it up Brenda
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Off-topic.
Originally posted by GUT View PostWifey is very excited too, Tut is one of her side interests. Australian Convict children and Tudor England are her first loves and formed he basis of her Honours Thesis and PhD.
With Tut dying prematurely, Aye's tomb was appropriated, which, if we now revise our thinking that the tomb was actually Nefetiti's, presents the same problems - it's just too small for a royal tomb.
Unless, as Steve suggests, there are other undiscovered rooms.
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Maybe the third time asking will be the lucky time to get an answer.
Pierre, please explain how the arterial spray of blood on the wall/door came to be there under the circumstances you are presenting?
At this time it appears you are trying to say that the killer entered through the "secret door", which means the bed either wasn't in front of the door or that he moved the bed to get in. Then once he is in the room, he then moves the bed against the door and cuts her throat, producing the arterial spray. Then he moves the bed against the OTHER door to barricade it.
If this is in fact your scenario...what in the world is Mary doing up until the time he cuts her?
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Hi GUT
nice to find some nice people here that 3 of you now spoken to me about the Elamarna name and Egyptology. so refreshing to have a sensible conversation here
thanks
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