Mary Jane Kelly found?

[Andrea_P]

Mary Jane Kelly Found

It was an interesting read but not convinced that Craig killed them all just to get at Mary

[JadenCollins]

Hi,
Lets be perfectly honest, none of us know, who Mary Kelly was, or her killer. regardless of ''Case closed'' or D.NA. possibilities.
Sorry for the negativity, but I have been around a long time..
Richard.

Amen to that, sir.

[Livia]

Dr Davies thought the most likely person to be his great
aunt on the 1881 census was an Elizabeth Davies, age 20,
lady's maid, born in North Wales, who lived at 62 Park Street,
St George's Hanover Square. Park Street runs parallel to Park
Lane, where the Vane-Tempests lived in Londonderry House,
19 Park Lane.

By 1881, Anne Davies, Elizabeth's mother, had remarried.
Her name was Anne Evans, wife of David Evans, draper and
grocer, living in Mallwyd. They were still living there in 1891.

(Thanks, Robert!)

[Paddy]

1881 census

I was wondering if this was the census entry that Mr Weston Davies thought might be Elizabeth in 1881census in Upper Street Islington ?
I found that part of the town she was born in was actually under Montgomeryshire till a late date.
The reason I ask as I remember there was an Annie Davies (prostitute) in the whitechapel infirmary in around 1883/4 (I will try and look it up) Only thing is I cant remember how old she said she was, but she said she was born local...

Pat......

[Paddy]

Hughes Marriage from FreeBMD

Marriages Mar 1876
Coakley Mary Liverpool 8b 340
Davies Matilda Anne Liverpool 8b 340 X
Hughes Griffith Liverpool 8b 340 X
McLEOD Finlay Liverpool 8b 340

I think this could be them ?
Pat...............

[Paddy]

The funeral

Apologies it was rather late when I read the following.....
Mary Weston Davies married a Mr John Evans (Maple and Co London) this is about her death...


The Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard
16th October 1908
ABERANGELL Obituary.The death took place after a short illness, of Mrs Mary Weston Evans wife of Mr John Evans of Brondesbury' Sister of Mr Edward Davies, Brynderwen, Aberangell, on Monday, October 5th, at Ryde Isle of White, and her remains were interred on Friday, October 9th 1908, at the West Hampstead Cemetery, London. The Rev T J Loughurst of Abbey-road English' Baptist Cnurch, officiated at the funeral and a number of English and Welsh friends and relations from London and Wales assembled in the cemetery.
She was taken the midst of her years and leaves behind her to mourn her loss her husband (Mr E?)kert Evans and Mr Alfred Evans (sons), and Miss Dilys Evans (only daughter). Other mourners were Mrs Hughes, Fwilheh (sister), Mrs D L Price Rhos (sister), Mr Edward Davies Brvn- derwen Aberangell (brother), Mr John Davies, Gloucester (brother), and Mr Wm. Evans, Bangor. As was evidenced on the occasion of the funeral, the deep-felt sympathy of many goes out to the bereaved family in the hour of their great sorrow The deceased lady was well known to many in the neighbourhood of Aberangell

Your right it cant be the older Edward as he died in 1870s...
Pat......

[Robert]

Surely not, Pat? It seems to be saying she was married in October 1876 aged 22.

[Paddy]

Originally Posted by Sam Flynn
She was Edward Davies' daughter, Debs, and John Weston Davies' sister

Sam, Debra, I think this is refering to Edward (Elizabeths dad) and his brother, also a John Weston Edwards.I believe its their sisters burial.

Pat.......

[Debra A]

The weird thing is, though, that Wynne doesn't seem to be the tree owner!

If memory serves, I don't think Hannah is mentioned in Wynne's book either, Robert.

[Robert]

The weird thing is, though, that Wynne doesn't seem to be the tree owner!

[Robert]

Something's got to give, Debs, so it looks like the Dalhousie one is wrong.

[Debra A]

Perhaps that indicates that the family knew that Elizabeth was dead. Although I suppose it could just as easily have been a natural conclusion if she had been missing for over 20 years.

Yes, that's true, they may have just assumed or maybe washed their hands of her.

[Debra A]

Well done on McBain, Pat.

Re Hannah, those two 1881 census returns take us on to the next mystery : on the one hand we have Hannah Davies, unmarried, living in London in service to Dalhousie, which Wynne confirmed to me was correct; on the other hand we have Hannah Price, married, living in Wales having already started a family.

The Hannah Price in Wales must be the correct one? We have the mention of John Weston Davies living in Gloucester in 1908 in the death article to confirm it is the right Davies family. WWD's father, John Evan Weston Davies was born in Gloucester in 1909.

[Robert]

It looks like Hannah's husband died 1936 leaving £1700.

[Robert]

Well done on McBain, Pat.

Re Hannah, those two 1881 census returns take us on to the next mystery : on the one hand we have Hannah Davies, unmarried, living in London in service to Dalhousie, which Wynne confirmed to me was correct; on the other hand we have Hannah Price, married, living in Wales having already started a family.