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  • Leanne
    Detective
    • Apr 2019
    • 459

    #136
    Originally posted by Christian View Post
    Prior to redevelopment original Dorset street is marked in red the rest is self explanatory ! An old thread off here
    YOU ARE CORRECT.
    I also found an old message from 2011 about a petition that was made to save the site:

    Originally posted by The Grave Maurice View Post
    I'm torn on this one. The line of Dorset Street still exists, sort of, but it's been shifted to the north and, the last I heard, access to the current service road is often barred by a locked gate. In any event, I've always found this to be the most disappointing of the C5 sites: I never got much of a sense of place, or time, by looking at that chipped curb stone. And, whatever building they're planning, it would have to be really ugly to be uglier than the car park.
    Originally posted by The Grave Maurice View Post

    I've signed petitions about, or objections to, the destruction of other East End sites, but this one was ruined so long ago that I'm not sure it's worth the effort to save what little is left.

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    • Losmandris
      Sergeant
      • May 2019
      • 717

      #137
      Originally posted by Christian View Post
      Prior to redevelopment original Dorset street is marked in red the rest is self explanatory ! An old thread off here
      Thanks Christian and Sam! This makes sense now.
      Best wishes,

      Tristan

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      • Christian
        Sergeant
        • Apr 2019
        • 665

        #138
        Originally posted by Losmandris View Post

        Thanks Christian and Sam! This makes sense now.
        Pleasure sir

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        • Leanne
          Detective
          • Apr 2019
          • 459

          #139
          Originally posted by Leanne View Post

          YOU ARE CORRECT.
          I also found an old message from 2011 about a petition that was made to save the site
          …..so instead of digging it up and building right over it, they just widened it.


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          • Leanne
            Detective
            • Apr 2019
            • 459

            #140
            I've been busy searching every Victorian East London site searching for relevant photographs and I found this one on immigration:
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            THE LINK IS TITLED BOUNDARY STREET 1890
            but it looks very much like Dorset Street. Where on a map is Boundary Street?

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            • Sam Flynn
              Casebook Supporter
              • Feb 2008
              • 13333

              #141
              Boundary Street was in Shoreditch, about half a mile north of "Dorset Street".

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              There's some evidence that Polly Nichols lodged there at some point. See the testimony of Jane "Oran" (actually Oram) in the press report linked below:

              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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              • Wickerman
                Commissioner
                • Oct 2008
                • 14900

                #142
                Originally posted by Leanne View Post
                I've been busy searching every Victorian East London site searching for relevant photographs and I found this one on immigration:
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                THE LINK IS TITLED BOUNDARY STREET 1890
                but it looks very much like Dorset Street. Where on a map is Boundary Street?
                But Leanne, that picture is a dead end alley, Dorset Street is a thoroughfare (a through street). You might think it looks like Millers Court, but even that would be debatable, as it clearly isn't.
                As a period photograph, it is a good one, and the house at the left looks similar to how No.26 looked.

                And, as a minor point of trivia. That (above) is how I perceived room 13 looking before that doorway was (in my opinion) bricked up to make a smaller window. The actual door used by Kelly was probably a side window, originally.

                Last edited by Wickerman; 06-08-2019, 12:21 PM.
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • richardnunweek
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2421

                  #143
                  Hi
                  There were lots of streets in East London which looked similar to Dorset street, however there was only one that was , and that is pictured all over Casebook.

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                  • Leanne
                    Detective
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 459

                    #144


                    INTERESTING!

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                    • Leanne
                      Detective
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 459

                      #145
                      ALSO INTERESTING:

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                      • MrBarnett
                        *
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 5672

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Leanne View Post
                        I’ve always wondered who the Freddy Mercury lookalike in the stripy jacket was.

                        Could it possibly be Arthur Harding’s sworn enemy, Isaac Bogard?

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                        • Leanne
                          Detective
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 459

                          #147
                          MOST INTERESTING:

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                          • Sam Flynn
                            Casebook Supporter
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 13333

                            #148
                            Good finds, Leanne.
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • MrBarnett
                              *
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 5672

                              #149
                              Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                              I’ve always wondered who the Freddy Mercury lookalike in the stripy jacket was.

                              Could it possibly be Arthur Harding’s sworn enemy, Isaac Bogard?

                              This is Arthur Harding's description of Bogard:

                              'He was very flamboyant. He dressed like a cowboy. It was before the cowboys on the pictures, y'know. He used to wear a big open shirt, like a woman's blouse, and a flash belt with something stuck in a case. It wasn't illegal to carry a gun at the time; he used to carry a big weapon stuck down his belt: a big Panama hat on - he was quite a character in his way.'

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                              • Leanne
                                Detective
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 459

                                #150

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