MJK2/MJK3 Hand comparison

[Wickerman]

Hence why I maintain that what we're looking at is a left hand. Although there is a radial styloid process which is less prominent then the ulna but which will be demonstrated on a wrist that is in a flexed position as this is.

Yes Richard, less prominent, a lower profile and more rounded, even when flexed. I can't see us substituting one for the other.

[GUT]

You think the picture was not taken by a professional photographer?

(..get your hand out'a the picture Watkins before the damn flash......Aw-$hit! )

G'day Jon

Don't rule it out, I've seen pros do sillier things, like the one that shot an entire roll of film with a viewfinder camera with the lens cap on.

In fact I've managed a few bloopers myself, ie changing film and not adjusting the ASA/DIN/ISO [all three being different terms for the same thing].

[Observer]

It is a bloodstain. The gap between the little finger, and third finger begins where the black triangular shape is situated.

[Wickerman]

The right hand image on the bottom right,possibly an assistant holding items in position,the blur to the left could be the left hand moving....?

You think the picture was not taken by a professional photographer?

(..get your hand out'a the picture Watkins before the damn flash......Aw-$hit! )

[Daisyhall1]

How much do you want to bet that a certain 'someone' will not believe it?

I still think that the, "right hand on the far right side of the bed" issue is of more interest.
I don't think that was ever resolved.

The right hand image on the bottom right,possibly an assistant holding items in position,the blur to the left could be the left hand moving....?

[richardh]

I just want to be loved

Nah. It's a superficial bloodstain. It really doesn't fit as a right hand thumb and you are just trying to impress Wickerman's wife.

[richardh]

Hence why I maintain that what we're looking at is a left hand. Although there is a radial styloid process which is less prominent then the ulna but which will be demonstrated on a wrist that is in a flexed position as this is.

I appreciate you have not mentioned this yet, but the ulnar styloid is noticeably prominent in the left picture, as it should be for a left wrist.

To convert that view to represent a right wrist leaves the problem of what to do about the prominent ulnar, you can't shade it out.

If you interpret that little finger into a thumb, the high ulnar makes the wrist looked deformed to me.

[Debra A]

Yes, it is. Although I suspect my model's hand is slimmer and a bit longer in the fingers than MJK's. Also, this demonstrates how tricky it is to get a right hand in the left hand's position.

Here's v5 (which looks quite close to a fit IMO)

Nah. It's a superficial bloodstain. It really doesn't fit as a right hand thumb and you are just trying to impress Wickerman's wife.

[Wickerman]

I appreciate you have not mentioned this yet, but the ulnar styloid is noticeably prominent in the left picture, as it should be for a left wrist.

To convert that view to represent a right wrist leaves the problem of what to do about the prominent ulnar, you can't shade it out.

If you interpret that little finger into a thumb, the high ulnar makes the wrist looked deformed to me.

[richardh]

I think you have incorporated a bloodstain as part of the reconstruction-
Is the divide that high up?

Yes, it is. Although I suspect my model's hand is slimmer and a bit longer in the fingers than MJK's. Also, this demonstrates how tricky it is to get a right hand in the left hand's position.

Here's v5 (which looks quite close to a fit IMO)

[Debra A]

Okay, this is what I have now...

I think you have incorporated a bloodstain as part of the reconstruction-
Is the divide that high up?

[richardh]

To obscure the same amount of 'thumb' as in MJK3 (for those who think it's a thumb) would mean the index finger comes to the fore and is then subject to the same vertical shadow the pinkie finger is?

Okay, this is what I have now...

[Debra A]

No. Sorry. try placing the index finger over the thumb joint.

To obscure the same amount of 'thumb' as in MJK3 (for those who think it's a thumb) would mean the index finger comes to the fore and is then subject to the same vertical shadow the pinkie finger is?

[Debra A]

Ohhh, Positioning!

I'll work on that.

Regarding the right arm on the mattress... I'm working on that too

Okay. Carry on.

[Debra A]

Now?

No. Sorry. try placing the index finger over the thumb joint.