MJK1 and MJK3

[Brenda]

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What I think is the main problem with the hand is that it appears to be so swollen. Even in MJK1 it appears swollen, don't you think? There is no evidence in MJK3 of any knuckles at all.

I hope and pray she got a real good punch in before he killed her.

[GUT]

Looking at just the hand I can manage a right hand, I can persuade myself it's a thumb not a finger, if I try.

But when I add the wrist and arm I get left every time, and when I throw in the leg it must be left I think.

But to play Devil's advocate. So what if it's the hand of an assistant, perhaps holding some flash tape or otherwise assisting in getting the shot, what does that have to do with the photo being of MJK or not? To me the clear answer is nothing.

[Wickerman]

Wickerman, my dear.

I was wrong...I admit it , I said it was Americanism, I was wrong. They use the word but do not use the word postmortem for an autopsy, but in English English, the former came into common use around 1850. We use postmortem examination, postmortem for short, more often than autopsy. However, dear, they mean exactly the same thing.

Not a problem my dear, we all make mistakes. Now if we can just get you to admit the same with respect to MJK3?


Oh, and by the way, your composure under pressure has been duly noted, and is commendable.

[Michael W Richards]

In support of a post by Amanda earlier,... and without any agenda, book to push, ego to feed or argument to make...the photo she showed is quite possibly of someones right hand. The remote shutter possibility is of course there..the bedding stuffed down where the camera would have been placed is sufficiently suggestive.

That's from a purely objective standpoint....something I would highly recommend to some posters.

Cheers

[GUT]

It's news to me too, Gut but, alas, I do not have that pleasurable, I'm sure, status in his life.

G'day Amanda

Are you sure being married to Jon would be pleasurable?

[Amanda Sumner]

OMG Jon I am so sorry! I didn't know.

It's news to me too, Gut but, alas, I do not have that pleasurable, I'm sure, status in his life.

[Amanda Sumner]

[QUOTE=Wickerman;304838]

I'm not going to repeat myself my dear.
One thing worse than someone who will not listen, is someone who will not learn.

"The term "autopsy" derives from the Ancient Greek autopsia, "to see for oneself", derived from αυτος (autos, "oneself") and όψις (opsis, "sight, view").[13] The word “autopsy” has been used since around the 17th century, it refers to the examination of inside the dead human body to discover diseases and cause of death."

In British Law it is a legally defined procedure.

Wickerman, my dear.

I was wrong...I admit it , I said it was Americanism, I was wrong. They use the word but do not use the word postmortem for an autopsy, but in English English, the former came into common use around 1850. We use postmortem examination, postmortem for short, more often than autopsy. However, dear, they mean exactly the same thing.

[GUT]

OMG is Wickerman married to Amanda?

OMG Jon I am so sorry! I didn't know.

[richardh]

OMG is Wickerman married to Amanda?

Hi Wickerman,

Are you normally so hugely patronizing to your wife?

Regards,

Simon

[Simon Wood]

Hi Wickerman,

Are you normally so hugely patronizing to your wife?

Regards,

Simon

[Wickerman]

[QUOTE=Amanda Sumner;304673]

An Autopsy is a Post-mortem, but a Post-mortem is not an Autopsy.

Any examination of a dead body is a post-mortem, but only the official examination authorized by the Coroner, and required to be submitted at an Inquest, is an Autopsy.

Dr bond conducted a post-mortem on the remains of Mary Kelly on Friday 9th Nov. as requested by Anderson in order to give Anderson his opinion on whether the wounds showed evidence of skill - that is all that he was requested to do.

Dr. Phillips conducted the Autopsy, ordered by Macdonald Saturday morning.
You appear to confuse one, with the other.QUOTE]


That is incorrect. An autopsy is an Americanism for postmortem. They are both the same thing.

I'm not going to repeat myself my dear.
One thing worse than someone who will not listen, is someone who will not learn.

"The term "autopsy" derives from the Ancient Greek autopsia, "to see for oneself", derived from αυτος (autos, "oneself") and όψις (opsis, "sight, view").[13] The word “autopsy” has been used since around the 17th century, it refers to the examination of inside the dead human body to discover diseases and cause of death."

In British Law it is a legally defined procedure.

[Amanda Sumner]

Hi All,

Here's my post-modern nomination for Nick Warren's side-splitting femur idea.

A pair of coal tongs similar to these.

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Regards,

Simon

Certainly the end of the tongs look similar....

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Here's my post-modern nomination for Nick Warren's side-splitting femur idea.

A pair of coal tongs similar to these.



Regards,

Simon

[Amanda Sumner]

There is no doubt that more than one photo was taken at the scene, but Macnaghten only mentions one taken of Mary.
There has been nothing ever written about others taken of her, that I am aware of. Everything else is conjecture. We simply do not know.
Which is why its provenance before 1970 would have been useful.

[Amanda Sumner]

We don't know for a fact there wasn't either.

We do know more than one photo was taken, it would be illogical that others were not taken of the scene.

Monty

I agree, and we do know that at least one photo was taken of the outside of the dwelling.