The missing key?

[MrBarnett]

Presumably, the possibility of opening the door through the broken window pane was something the police could easily check out.

[lynn cates]

excellent

Hello Natasha. Thanks.

I have said before that I think the killer was known to the victim, I just wanted to take a look at a different scenario.''

Excellent idea.

Cheers.
LC

[Harry D]

Hello Harry. What would be the point of such a lie?

Cheers.
LC

Barnett could've concocted the missing key story in a clumsy attempt to vindicate himself. After all, if the door did require the key for access then the finger of suspicion would point towards the man most likely to be in possession of it. If it was a simple case of doing the window trick, why did the police choose to break the door down? Why wasn't McCarthy the landlord aware of this trick?

[Natasha]

Hello Natasha. Thanks.

Wonder if there were much space under the bed?

If her assailant were known to her, there would be little need to keep watch.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn

Not sure about the space under the bed, but then again we don't know what size/build the perpetrator was.

I have said before that I think the killer was known to the victim, I just wanted to take a look at a different scenario.

[lynn cates]

point

Hello Harry. What would be the point of such a lie?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

space

Hello Natasha. Thanks.

Wonder if there were much space under the bed?

If her assailant were known to her, there would be little need to keep watch.

Cheers.
LC

[Natasha]

With The amount of police hanging around outside one would have thought that somebody would have noticed the broken pane and reached in to open the door. I doubt it was possible, the broken pane was too high up. However I don't think Barnett was our man. He may well have had the key but he would have been the number one suspect at that time. Maybe he felt it was easier to say it was missing than to be accused of an extremely violent murder. Whatever his reasons, I believe he lied about the key.

I think he did lie about the key. He was described as violent I'm sure I read on here, but I'm not 100% on him being the ripper. He could have been perceived as the murderer because most crimes are committed by people who are close to their victims.

There is something not right about him, I just can't think what it is.

The killer obviously had mental problems, the victims were defeminised which suggests that the killer was attacking the victims in relation to them being women.

[Amanda Sumner]

Hi Amanda

I believe this also. I don't think McCarthy would have let the door be broken open with an axe. He after all looked through the window, why did he not see the connection with the window and the opening of the door?

With The amount of police hanging around outside one would have thought that somebody would have noticed the broken pane and reached in to open the door. I doubt it was possible, the broken pane was too high up. However I don't think Barnett was our man. He may well have had the key but he would have been the number one suspect at that time. Maybe he felt it was easier to say it was missing than to be accused of an extremely violent murder. Whatever his reasons, I believe he lied about the key.

[Natasha]

The story Barnett told about the missing key,and using the broken window to get in, is odd. Looking at the photograph of the dwelling the broken pane seems to be on the top right. It seems very unlikely to me that anyone could reach the door at that angle. Maybe the key was never missing at all?

Hi Amanda

I believe this also. I don't think McCarthy would have let the door be broken open with an axe. He after all looked through the window, why did he not see the connection with the window and the opening of the door?

[Natasha]

Has anyone ever considered that the whole missing key story was a lie by Barnett?

Hi Harry

Yes

I have mentioned in a few posts that something doesn't add up about him. He was quick to id MJK, and I would have thought if he really cared about kelly, then he would be eager to disprove that it was Kelly. How can anyone id someone by their eyes & ears (cut/damaged ears may I add)

He was also, as far as I know, the only person to mention the lost key. I don't think anyone else commented on this. So that being said he may have been lying. He may have had the key in his possession all the time. Why? the murderer could then spend as long as he wanted in the room, while the door was locked.

[Amanda Sumner]

The story Barnett told about the missing key,and using the broken window to get in, is odd. Looking at the photograph of the dwelling the broken pane seems to be on the top right. It seems very unlikely to me that anyone could reach the door at that angle. Maybe the key was never missing at all? Why would Barnett feel the need to lie?

[Natasha]

Natasha,

The wash basin thing was a gazunder.

MrB

Hi MrB

Because the size of it looks quite big, I didn't think it was that

Thinking about it now if the pot was filled, and the ripper was hiding under there, then he really was a nutcase

[Harry D]

Has anyone ever considered that the whole missing key story was a lie by Barnett?

[MrBarnett]

Natasha,

The wash basin thing was a gazunder.

MrB

[Natasha]

Hello Natasha. If the killer were hiding in the room, there would be some difficulty, given the small space. If he were to REMAIN hidden, then she must have undressed in the dark and lain down the same.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn

I was thinking maybe he hid under the bed. I know there is the wash basin thing under the bed, but he may have been propped right up against the partition.

I think he may have lay in wait. If he didn't know Kelly, then I think maybe he had stalked her and was looking for an opportunity to strike. When MJK was in the company of Joe etc, the ripper could not have struck then. He strike at the precise time when Kelly was alone. I definitely think he had been watching her, because of the following: missing key, time window in which to strike, knowledge of gaining access to the room