What is the 'Holy Grail' for definitively proving the identity of MJK

[erobitha]

Any record of yours being alive after 1888?

The problem I have is the name I have for her is quite common, so I cannot conclusively rule out she may appear somewhere after 1888 - but I do lose track of her in the census records in 1881.

Again, none of this will ever be proven conclusively without DNA that is reliable. I’m very surprised you believe that you can claim yours was definitely not alive post 1888.

[DJA]

The Mary I found was Welsh with links to Limerick. Much of the information she gave to Barnett and others definitely look like they had some grains of truth but without a conclusive DNA link I don't think we will ever know for certain. I haven't followed the geneology line from her siblings to modern day, but that will be a longer project.

Any record of yours being alive after 1888?

[erobitha]

MJK was almost certainly using an assumed name.

I know DJA believes he has found her, but then so do others include myself.

The Mary I found was Welsh with links to Limerick. Much of the information she gave to Barnett and others definitely look like they had some grains of truth but without a conclusive DNA link I don't think we will ever know for certain. I haven't followed the geneology line from her siblings to modern day, but that will be a longer project.

[Michael W Richards]

Forget Ireland and Wales. She has not turned up there.

Her being 25 is not etched in stone.

Have a look at events leading up to Section 11 in 1885,which is also the time frame leading up to her leaving the GAY house.

Search Censuses and birth/baptism records. When you think you have found her,see if she exists after 1888.

Have a good look at the evidence from the double event.

You'll find her,if you look.

Dozens, literally dozens of people have researched tirelessly to find this woman based on her given story, so Im sure your correct in that as it has been given, it isnt going to be found in Welsh or Irish birth records.

[MrBarnett]

On this sad anniversary I was wondering what the 'holy grail' for once and for all proving the identity of MJK could be? Is it finding some incontrovertible evidence for her in the census, DNA or a family heirloom turning up or some up to now hidden piece of evidence from the police? Or does proof simply not exist and never shall?

As much as it grieves me to say, I don't imagine this mystery will ever be solved.

Thoughts?

Tristan

The late Chris Scott once described Alice McKenzie as being ‘as impervious to research as Mary Kelly.’ Now we know the broad outline of her life and a fair bit of detail from before she wound up in Spitalfields.

In Alice’s case the mystery was all down to the use of an assumed name(s) and, it would seem, a certain reticence about her background.

Who knows, one day a press report or some other document may pop up that solves the mystery of MJK.

[DJA]

Forget Ireland and Wales. She has not turned up there.

Her being 25 is not etched in stone.

Have a look at events leading up to Section 11 in 1885,which is also the time frame leading up to her leaving the GAY house.

Search Censuses and birth/baptism records. When you think you have found her,see if she exists after 1888.

Have a good look at the evidence from the double event.

You'll find her,if you look.

[Losmandris]

On this sad anniversary I was wondering what the 'holy grail' for once and for all proving the identity of MJK could be? Is it finding some incontrovertible evidence for her in the census, DNA or a family heirloom turning up or some up to now hidden piece of evidence from the police? Or does proof simply not exist and never shall?

As much as it grieves me to say, I don't imagine this mystery will ever be solved.

Thoughts?

Tristan