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  • Cogidubnus
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    Jolly Bonnet?

    And?

    Dave

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  • Robert
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    I have no problem with the cry. It would have been uttered with some urgency - not a Michael Caine "Oh!...murder" sort of thing.

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  • Scorpio
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    I think that the " Oh!" is probably a mannered rendering of some confused emotional noise.
    " Murder! ", despite sounding silly to us,was a common refrain in Victorian times. Think " Oh Jesus Christ! " from The Wickerman for a modern version.

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  • jason_c
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    Originally posted by mousetrap View Post
    I've always assumed it was a passerby who didn't want to get involved with the police. I don't see how it could have been Kelly. If you're being murdered, you'd hardly have the presence of mind to cry out, "Oh, murder!" Wouldn't you be more likely to say, "Help," or merely emit a wordless scream???
    The "oh murder!" cry does seem melodramatic or unnatural. The only way I can justify it is as a desperate but cool headed plea for help. This was a long time before a neighbour could simply pick up a telephone and call for police help before immediately returning too bed. Any help for the victim would have to come in the form of a neighbour climbing out of a cosy bed at stupid o'clock in the morning and investigating in person. A cry of "oh murder" was specific in its seriousness, perhaps intentionally so.

    Still, it has an unnatural quality coming from a person at the wrong end of a knife.

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  • Scorpio
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    I believe Kelly had the opportunity and motivation to make the statement;
    Kelly's outburst may have been the mitigating factor for the sheet over the face/in mouth scenario inspired by its bloody and cut about condition.

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  • greeneyes
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    My concern with the "Oh Murder" being the call of the victim would be that she doesn't know she is being murdered. Violence was common and surely it would be more likely that a woman being attacked in her bed would assume rape or attack. So calling "rape" or "help" would seem a more plausible cry out for the victim.

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  • Cogidubnus
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    I've been busy raising teenagers.

    Me too...five including two sets of twins...commiserations...

    Might we know your first name Mousetrap?

    Cheers
    Dave

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  • Robert
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    Hi Beowulf

    I was simply concerned to show that people did cry "Oh murder" while they were being murdered.

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  • mousetrap
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    Thanks for your kind comments, everyone. Yes, it's taken me a long time to post . . . I've been busy raising teenagers.

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Well it's certainly one Day who won't find himself doing the Lambeth Walk...

    Oh alright, I'll get me coat...

    Dave

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  • Beowulf
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    Welcome, Mousetrap.

    Christmas Day 1883
    Well, that's pretty interesting. Too bad there isn't a description of the assailant. Could that really be Jack? So many years earlier on the other side of the river?

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  • Robert
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    Welcome, Mousetrap.

    Christmas Day 1883
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  • Cogidubnus
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    Must admit I noticed this being your first post...and only just spotted your date of joining!

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Yes

    Well I must say, that's the way my mind works too Mousetrap...welcome to the boards!

    Dave

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  • mousetrap
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    I've always assumed it was a passerby who didn't want to get involved with the police. I don't see how it could have been Kelly. If you're being murdered, you'd hardly have the presence of mind to cry out, "Oh, murder!" Wouldn't you be more likely to say, "Help," or merely emit a wordless scream???

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