Did Mary know her attacker?

[Sam Flynn]

She knew her killer but not the Ripper that worked the streets.

Kelly worked the streets, too.

[NOV9]

Nov 9 writes:

"Jack was too busy planning the street attacks to bother with Mary."

Just what elements do you suppose that planning included, Nov 9? You probably know that there is a wide span of theories on the subject, but it would be intresting to hear your view.
My feeling is that Jack did not consider the Miller´s Court strike bothersome at all. Having said that, I have of course also responded to the question asked on the thread; Did Mary know her killer? In all probability no, I would say - but if she did, she knew the Ripper.

The best!
Fisherman

Fisherman,

I have posted on how Jack plans his site. This is from the mouths of convicted killers in the past of how they work their sites, and why they work it the way they do.

I also posted on why Mary knew her killer.

She knew her killer but not the Ripper that worked the streets.

[Fisherman]

Nov 9 writes:

"Jack was too busy planning the street attacks to bother with Mary."

Just what elements do you suppose that planning included, Nov 9? You probably know that there is a wide span of theories on the subject, but it would be intresting to hear your view.
My feeling is that Jack did not consider the Miller´s Court strike bothersome at all. Having said that, I have of course also responded to the question asked on the thread; Did Mary know her killer? In all probability no, I would say - but if she did, she knew the Ripper.

The best!
Fisherman

[NOV9]

Well I think we have to define "know." It can run the gamut from meeting earlier that day, to a regular client, friend, close acquaintance, lover.

c.d.

You can pick any of the above, Mary knew her killer.

[c.d.]

Well I think we have to define "know." It can run the gamut from meeting earlier that day, to a regular client, friend, close acquaintance, lover.

c.d.

[NOV9]

Hi all,

Okay, I have been at the Casebook for a while now and since we lost alot of the old threads I thought that I would once again raise this question. Did Mary Kelly know her attacker.

I have always sided with those who believe that Mary did not know who killed her and I have read all the arguments by peoople who I respect that claim that Kelly did indeed know her killer.

A lot of arguments I dismiss as hapenstance. The position of Kelly's body. The fact that Kelly took the time and had the time to fold her cloths. Kelly was killed in her home, the door was locked and alot of others reasons.

I feel the most obvious reason that may point to the fact that Kelly knew her attacker was Jack or someone else killed Mary the first real chance he had.

Jack Killed on weekends and hollidays and the first real chance he had to get to Kelly he did. I believe it was the first weekend she was out on the streets after Barnett left her.

It is odd that the Jack did not kill the whole month of October, I believe it was about six weeks, and the first chance he has, he gets Mary. I still believe that she was just unlucky. However I feel if we are looking for reasons to believe that Kelly may have known her attacker or her attacker was stalking Kelly or if Kelly was a copy cat crime, then the fact that he, Jack or somebody else, struck Mary the first real chance he had to do so is an interesting reason.

Your friend, Brad

Hi Celee,

The question is did Mary know her killer? I believe that she did.
No forced entry and Mary was not on the street very long after Joe left.

The attack on her face would tell you that it was personal, I have been rebutted about this because, most people think that Post Mortem Mutilation was suppose to mean Personal, but that was just Fantasy.

This is a weak explanation but here it goes. If a woman thinks or knows that her man is cheating on her, she would find photographs of him and cut the face out, because she can not stand the sight of him, this becomes personal.
It is just an example of what I mean as personal, a real hatred for the person.

Mary’s killer knew her and hated her. Jack was too busy planning the street attacks to bother with Mary.

This is my opinion only.

[celee]

Hi all,

Okay, I have been at the Casebook for a while now and since we lost alot of the old threads I thought that I would once again raise this question. Did Mary Kelly know her attacker.

I have always sided with those who believe that Mary did not know who killed her and I have read all the arguments by peoople who I respect that claim that Kelly did indeed know her killer.

A lot of arguments I dismiss as hapenstance. The position of Kelly's body. The fact that Kelly took the time and had the time to fold her cloths. Kelly was killed in her home, the door was locked and alot of others reasons.

I feel the most obvious reason that may point to the fact that Kelly knew her attacker was Jack or someone else killed Mary the first real chance he had.

Jack Killed on weekends and hollidays and the first real chance he had to get to Kelly he did. I believe it was the first weekend she was out on the streets after Barnett left her.

It is odd that the Jack did not kill the whole month of October, I believe it was about six weeks, and the first chance he has, he gets Mary. I still believe that she was just unlucky. However I feel if we are looking for reasons to believe that Kelly may have known her attacker or her attacker was stalking Kelly or if Kelly was a copy cat crime, then the fact that he, Jack or somebody else, struck Mary the first real chance he had to do so is an interesting reason.

Your friend, Brad