Millers Court Today.

[Monty]

Gareth,

Thanks for putting me straight.

Jeff, Mike,

Check the A-Z under Thomas.

Monty

[Monty]

Philip,

It was a piece by the late, great Des McKenna, and anything by him was always worth reading.

Monty

[George Hutchinson]

There was a feature on Jacripa in the WS1888 Journal a year or two ago. I don't go along with suspects and have no interest in it, but this made a very plausible case for adding him to the list. Well worth searching out.

PHILIP

[Sam Flynn]

I don't suppose you have the Echo article in full do you Garath?

I'm afraid I don't, Jeff. The last copy of I owned of the South Wales Echo (or the "Eckoo", as some Valleys people pronounce it for some unknown reason) was published... this year Perhaps Mr Begg can help us with anything pre-2008

[Mike Covell]

I had a look under "Google" and found nothing. I tried "Ask Jeeves", "Lycos" and "Excite" and all 4 showed the same results albeit in different order.

[Jeff Leahy]

All rather interesting

I can still find nothing via google on 'Jackripa' ?

I don't suppose you have the Echo article in full do you Garath?

I'm curious of the source, its completely new info on MJK, to me, if true.

Yours Jeff

[Monty]

Jeff,

I just checked my stuff, yes he was named 'Jackripa' by his local village.

Monty

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Neil,

Im sure Gareth will put me straight but Havelock Street is near the docks?

Havelock Street is practically in the city centre. It's a short walk from Cardiff General train station and the bus depot, within spitting distance of the Millennium Stadium (widely, and incorrectly, known as "Cardiff Arms Park"). The docks are a fair distance away.

The source for the "Havelock Street" story, according to the link posted by Jeff, appears to have been a report in the South Wales Echo of the 12th November 1888. Heaven knows where they got it from - the story is new to me, so it's an interesting find.

I might dream that "Havelock Street" was a mis-hearing of "Halkett Street", which was practically a ghetto of poor Irish immigrants throughout the latter half of the C19th, and where my personal favourite for a Cardiffian "Mary Kelly" lived.

[Jeff Leahy]

Jeff,

Refresh me, William Evan Thomas, was he Jacripa?

Monty

You know I don't know Monty. I did a search and turned up nothing. Perhaps Wales online are having a Joke of some sort? All rather mysterious..

Pirate

[Monty]

Jeff,

Im sure Gareth will put me straight but Havelock Street is near the docks which, as you may know, is a red light district in any port.

Refresh me, William Evan Thomas, was he Jacripa?

Monty

[Jeff Leahy]

Jeff,

I think I remember reading this Havelock Street in either Paley, Harrison or William book, I think it was the former.

I assume its from a census of sorts.

Monty

Hi Monty

As far as I'm aware the only known facts are that Kelly staid with a Cousin (Could be Male or Female?) in Cardiff for eight or nine months. (interestingly about the same time as a pregnacy).

I wondered if Havelock street had a conection to the Red light district (mentions Mary Ann Street) and whether someone had put two and two togther...they seem to be quoting from an Echo report? But why Havelock Street..is there an 1888 Echo source?

The article also quotes William Evan Thomas as a suspect, which is unusual. It always intrigues me when features get it wrong bt through in snippets of fact..

Pirate

Ps must dash collecting the kids

[Monty]

Jeff,

I think I remember reading this Havelock Street in either Paley, Harrison or William book, I think it was the former.

I assume its from a census of sorts.

Monty

[KatBradshaw]

Gosh that has a lot of inaccuracies hasn't it. I wonder what their source is. Might even be worth checking them out. I wonder if you can contact them.

[Jeff Leahy]

Those damn Welsh chaps again. MJK

Hi Guys

Just a quick post..i'm out again

However I came across a feature in 'Wales online'..as you do..

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/columnists/2008/05/20/cardiff-s-working-girl-who-knew-too-much-or-not-91466-20934493/

It has a number of facts mixed up.

However it makes a claim I have not come across before on MJK.

'That Mary Kelly's cousin may have lived in Havelock Street, Cardiff?'

Does anyone know where this information came from?

ie its source?

Pirate

[KatBradshaw]

I don't know that one.
I am reading the 'Real Mary Kelly' book that was recommended. Its very good.