Kelly photo 1 enhanced - graphic

[Sam Flynn]

Aahhh! I see now where you were coming from, Jukka

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Sam!

Thanks a lot, though - in fact - the question was for Simon!

All the best
Jukka

(PS Simon; those are even clearer on Chris's copies!)

[Sam Flynn]

Hello Simon!

And the other one!

The same, from a different angle.

[Sam Flynn]

I hope you can tell then:

What is that thing inside the circle?!

Several kilos of fatty flesh, Jukka... "The flaps removed from the abdomen and thighs were on a table" (Dr Bond).

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Simon!

And the other one!

All the best
Jukka

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Simon!

I hope you can tell then:

What is that thing inside the circle?!


All the best
Jukka

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

There are no body parts on the bedside table in MJK1 and MJK3.

Regards,

Simon

[Remy.russell]

Hello Mike!

The most clearest version so far! Thank you!

However; i hope, you would have cut off the cross-bar of the alleged "crucifix"!

All the best
Jukka

LOL Did you mean 'Most clear'? I caught that, had to fix it. Sorry.

[Remy.russell]

That is truly disguisting. Heh, but thanks. This really helps with some analysis, though. I love Ripper stuff. I couldn't see a lot of things clearly before and I thank you for this. I wish I'd found this before I wrote my victims analysis. Thank you again.

[Pippin Joan]

[QUOTE=j.r-ahde;56379]

Since the abdomen is on the table, I cannot help saying;

that piece would indicate, that MJK wasn't "stout" in the same meaning as today!

All right, I am the most amateurish on these boards with anatomy, but does anyone agree anyway?!

All the best
Jukka
QUOTE]

I agree with you. Reports describe MJK as a full-figured gal, but I think it meant she was buxom rather than stout. What is left of her shows a slim body structure. Without her ample bosom, she looks quite slim.

Has anyone found that skull photo? I would like to see that for facial reconstruction.

[claire]

Lyn, nothing to add but I agree with all that you say here. That hand across her body is a parody of peace, isn't it? Was that how she slept?

I, too, saw blood where others saw a garter.

Sound comments, if disturbing.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

Since the abdomen is on the table, I cannot help saying;

that piece would indicate, that MJK wasn't "stout" in the same meaning as today!

All right, I am the most amateurish on these boards with anatomy, but does anyone agree anyway?!

All the best
Jukka

(PS. Posting seems to be OK today, thanks, Stephen P.!)

[Lyn]

After seeing Chris' enhanced MJK1 I found myself quickly spellbound by all the comments that followed. I even, after putting my glasses on to have a good look at detail I must have missed before, but still couldn't see what others saw, went to hunt down the magnifying glass that I knew we had in the house, to see what everyone was posting back and forth about. I'm afraid I still can't see what others can see.

What I see (from the close up image of Mary Kelly's garter particularly) is something I saw when I was nursing. A cut made either by a serrated blade or by 'sawing', with blanching on either side of the wound. It's not something I've forgotten, so perhaps that's why I see a resemblance.

To explain, clinically, a couple of self-harmers I saw at the facility where I last worked, one had sliced her thigh with a bread knife, another had sawn back and forth on his arm with a carving knife. Same appearance. Similar blanching.

Yes, well. Apologies for the graphics.

I do disagree with Dr Philips now, however, because from what I can see in the enhanced photo, Mary Kelly had just a sheet around her.

The one thing that continues to strike me, though, no matter how many times I look at the Miller's Court crime scene (MJK1) and no matter how enhanced, my interpretation is that whoever the perpetrator was, they left Mary Kelly looking 'peaceful' -- not peaceful, but 'peaceful'. Does anyone else see that as well?

And I cannot see a crocodile! All I see is flesh in the foreground on the table beside the bed, and a bolster or wrapped up bedding behind it, given the particular photo.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Stephen,

Let's leave Rover out of this.

Regards,

Simon

[Sam Flynn]

Sam's graphic was fine except that the table was oblong not square.

Indeed, Stephen - I deliberately played down the table's likely length just to make a point. In terms of the "proscenium" of MJK1, there was plenty of room for Senor Crocodile to lurk in the wings, stage left.