Did Jack leave his fingerprints on Mary Jane Kelly?

[packers stem]

I have reason to believe that she was killed with one stocking still on.

Not aware of seeing a report of a removed stocking anywhere

[Sam Flynn]

Neighhhhh.. .. I think we can get a good estimate from humans too.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24169457

Interesting, but I don't think we'd get much mileage from the Kelly photograph for a number of reasons. We don't have the imprint of the entire hand, only three (or four) fingers. Of those, we don't know whether the smears were made by the entirety of each finger or just a couple of phalanges from each. We also don't know the configuration of the hand when it left the prints, e.g. were the fingers slightly curled or entirely flat? Were the prints made in one "visit", so to speak, or was the leg gripped more than once, resulting in prints and smudges being overlaid one on top of the other? Finally, we don't really have a scale against which we might calibrate our measurements, so determining the length of the smudges with any accuracy will be tricky enough, never mind the length of the rest of the hand.

[Batman]

Only if you're a horse

Neighhhhh.. .. I think we can get a good estimate from humans too.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24169457

[Sam Flynn]

I wonder if height can be estimated by hand size.

Only if you're a horse

[Sam Flynn]

None of the women killed were dressed in rags.

I think you'll find that many of the victims' clothing wasn't in the best state of repair. Not that that was my point.

They were in no way comparable to tramps .

I didn't.

If there was one garter , there would have been two.

I have reason to believe that she was killed with one stocking still on.

[Batman]

If bloody fingerprints were on the body, they would have been mentioned in the police and doctor's reports.

I have a sneaking suspicion that fingerprints weren't something they were too aware of in 1888, but if JtR had murdered after 1890, they would have been. That the body was washed down by the doctor's assistants before the analysis began. Those assistants weren't very good at following orders sometimes. Like how they undressed Nichols.

If a better copy of the alt photograph ever appears we might just have the tips of his prints for a few digits.

I wonder if height can be estimated by hand size.

[packers stem]

More than think, it is reading about the historical Whitechapel life of unfortunates tells us these things.

As for toes... oh the wealth!

MJK was maybe a tad better off than the other JtR victims, but that doesn't say much as we are looking at individuals who are borderline destitute. "Homeless" females on the streets being picked off by a serial offender. MJK had trouble paying rent. Several weeks in arrears.

So you believe she could only afford one piece of frayed string despite the nail polish ?

[packers stem]

Indeed. A piece of string or bootlace could be used as an improvised "garter" to hold a stocking in place, in much the same way as tramps sometimes use a piece of rope or an old necktie in lieu of a belt, to hold their trousers up.

None of the women killed were dressed in rags.
They had clothes.
Skirts , boddice etc ..... yes , worn maybe but they still took pride in their appearance as shown by the folded clothes in 13 Miller's court .
The clean clothes left behind .
They were in no way comparable to tramps .
If there was one garter , there would have been two.
It would be a major presumption to believe it to be one with nothing to back it up

[Sam Flynn]

If bloody fingerprints were on the body, they would have been mentioned in the police and doctor's reports.

Would three or four small blood smears on a woman's stocking have made the cut, so to speak?

[Scott Nelson]

Yes, it would still have been reported.

[Geddy2112]

If bloody fingerprints were on the body, they would have been mentioned in the police and doctor's reports.

Even if fingerprinting as a means of identification was not used in 1888?

[Scott Nelson]

If bloody fingerprints were on the body, they would have been mentioned in the police and doctor's reports.

[Michael W Richards]

I believe the "garter piece" could also be the rolled up top of a stocking, the elastic portion.

I think that the smudged bloody finger impressions are probably from when he positioned her legs, not from holding them while cutting.

[Sam Flynn]

To believe it's a garter you have to believe it to be a rough, badly frayed, seriously overtightened (as the more you zoom you will see a clear indentation ) of string and not a garter as such

Indeed. A piece of string or bootlace could be used as an improvised "garter" to hold a stocking in place, in much the same way as tramps sometimes use a piece of rope or an old necktie in lieu of a belt, to hold their trousers up.

[Batman]

You think ?
Have you not spotted the toenails yet ?

More than think, it is reading about the historical Whitechapel life of unfortunates tells us these things.

As for toes... oh the wealth!

MJK was maybe a tad better off than the other JtR victims, but that doesn't say much as we are looking at individuals who are borderline destitute. "Homeless" females on the streets being picked off by a serial offender. MJK had trouble paying rent. Several weeks in arrears.