Because they were bloodstained

[richardnunweek]

Hi Batman.
A red Pelerine, and a shabby skirt, is not the Mary Kelly that left the court at 9.pm.
If I leave home wearing a suit at 9.pm. there is a good chance I shall be wearing those clothes a couple of hours later, if Mjk was on the pull , dressing down by changing into a Red Pelerine. and a shabby skirt , would be strange.
Regards Richard.

[spyglass]

Hi.
We can explain away the belief that the murder happened in daylight, by Mrs Maxwell's statement.
However something led the police to believe that the killer deliberately burnt the jacket and bonnet , because they were stained with blood.
This would have been the same jacket /Bonnet, that Mrs Prater allegedly saw Mary wearing at 9.pm the 8th.
She [ Kelly] apparently never wore a hat, she did have a velvet jacket, and we know that Mrs Harvey left her 'her ' bonnet Thursday,
If these were the items she left Millers court in at 9.pm, Mrs Cox describes different clothing two hours later.?
How come?
Why would the killer wish to obliterate the clothing Mary was wearing that evening?
I believe Prater, over Cox, as she mentioned the bonnet, which Mary never had to wear until the 8th.
In order for the items to have become bloodstained, they either had to have been worn by the victim when attacked, or in the close vicinity of the attack .
Why would the killer wish to remove those items.?
Explanations?
Regards Richard.

Hi,
The Police needed to discredit Maxwell's statement?
A news paper report listed all the items found in Kelly room, one item described was a "velvet bodice"....Maxwell described Kelly as wearing a "Velvet bodice ".
I believe that said item was purposely put on that list, again to discredit Maxwell.

Regards.

[Batman]

Depends on the hat. You don't have to wear one all the time you have it. Could carry it. So if Cox was asked did she have a hat ON the answer could be NO but still doesn't mean she doesn't have one on her.

What clothes had Mary Jane on ? - She had no hat; a red pelerine and a shabby skirt.

Hard to tell from that because she asked what she had ON. Yet Cox answer no hat, not no hat ON. So seems Cox thought no hat at all.

[richardnunweek]

Hi.
Is it not possible that the killer burnt those items, not because they were bloodstained, but because maybe he was worried that the garments might trigger a witness that saw Kelly and him together the previous evening,when Kelly was wearing that jacket and bonnet.
I am curious about Mrs Cox and her description of Kelly's clothing when she was with Blotchy.
No Mention of the jacket and bonnet..
Did she come home to change between say 10-11 pm.
Was Blotchy a lie,?
Did Kelly bring her killer back to her room on his insistence earlier then she was hoping too wearing the jacket and bonnet. it was said she missed her usual visit en -route home.
If that happened .
Then Cox was telling porkies, and Hutchinson invented his A man.
It could well be that she was dead by the early hours of the 9th.
Then its back to square one for yours truly.
Regards Richard.

[Abby Normal]

Hi.
We can explain away the belief that the murder happened in daylight, by Mrs Maxwell's statement.
However something led the police to believe that the killer deliberately burnt the jacket and bonnet , because they were stained with blood.
This would have been the same jacket /Bonnet, that Mrs Prater allegedly saw Mary wearing at 9.pm the 8th.
She [ Kelly] apparently never wore a hat, she did have a velvet jacket, and we know that Mrs Harvey left her 'her ' bonnet Thursday,
If these were the items she left Millers court in at 9.pm, Mrs Cox describes different clothing two hours later.?
How come?
Why would the killer wish to obliterate the clothing Mary was wearing that evening?
I believe Prater, over Cox, as she mentioned the bonnet, which Mary never had to wear until the 8th.
In order for the items to have become bloodstained, they either had to have been worn by the victim when attacked, or in the close vicinity of the attack .
Why would the killer wish to remove those items.?
Explanations?
Regards Richard.

hi Richard
I think the ripper burned the clothes out of spite, and or to gain more light.

[Wickerman]

The "because they were stained with blood", had to be an assumption, surely.
Burned clothing would not show any blood if it was all burnt.

[richardnunweek]

Hi.
We can explain away the belief that the murder happened in daylight, by Mrs Maxwell's statement.
However something led the police to believe that the killer deliberately burnt the jacket and bonnet , because they were stained with blood.
This would have been the same jacket /Bonnet, that Mrs Prater allegedly saw Mary wearing at 9.pm the 8th.
She [ Kelly] apparently never wore a hat, she did have a velvet jacket, and we know that Mrs Harvey left her 'her ' bonnet Thursday,
If these were the items she left Millers court in at 9.pm, Mrs Cox describes different clothing two hours later.?
How come?
Why would the killer wish to obliterate the clothing Mary was wearing that evening?
I believe Prater, over Cox, as she mentioned the bonnet, which Mary never had to wear until the 8th.
In order for the items to have become bloodstained, they either had to have been worn by the victim when attacked, or in the close vicinity of the attack .
Why would the killer wish to remove those items.?
Explanations?
Regards Richard.

[Batman]

Hi.
According to The Times 12th Nov 1888.
The police believed that a jacket , and bonnet were burnt because they were bloodstained,
Explanations?
Regards Richard,

Doesn't make any sense does it when nearly everything in that room was bloodstained and not burned. If they said it was likely JtR burned some of his own clothes because they were bloodstained, would make more sense.

Yet one way we might explain it is that JtR selected those clothes to burn from others because those had blood on them. Meaning he was going to use the fireplace and selected the bloody clothes over some clothes that were not covered in blood to burn.

[richardnunweek]

Hi.
According to The Times 12th Nov 1888.
The police believed that a jacket , and bonnet were burnt because they were bloodstained,
Explanations?
Regards Richard,