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    If you prescribe to the c5 and the nichols murder being his first , then a real close examination may yield " novice" mistakes as he may have spent excess time in area stalking.....previous contact with victim hrs before......I think he would have planned..,perhaps made a mistake,,.I dont think he grabbed a knife and decided to kill first prostitute he saw.....he lived or worked very close to bucks row imo.,..of course if he killed before the this then my opinion is for naught

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    Originally posted by thewoo1 View Post
    If you prescribe to the c5 and the nichols murder being his first , then a real close examination may yield " novice" mistakes as he may have spent excess time in area stalking.....previous contact with victim hrs before......I think he would have planned..,perhaps made a mistake,,.I dont think he grabbed a knife and decided to kill first prostitute he saw.....he lived or worked very close to bucks row imo.,..of course if he killed before the this then my opinion is for naught
    Nearly all serial killers start out with lesser crimes and increase the level of violence until they find their niche. Examples would be extreme cruelty to animals, thefts, assaults, perhaps rapes, then finally graduating to murder. Prostitutes are notoriously easy victims, even today, since they are nomadic and do not generally have close family or friends. Personally, I think a strong argument could be made to include Martha Tabram as the "first" of the acknowledged victims...or at least be included in the canon. She ticks all the boxes: occupation, location, occurred on weekend or Bank Holiday, and body presentation. An equally strong argument could be made that Liz Stride was NOT a Ripper victim, and instead the victim of a violent domestic assault-turned-murder. I think it more likely to include Tabram and dismiss Stride, but that is another argument for another time.

    Naturally, the Ripper didn't wake up one day and decide to randomly murder a bunch of prostitutes; his pathology is a deep-seated FEAR of women. And because he is afraid, he is very angry and despises them. Think of how terrified of women he must be to attempt to reduce them to literal pieces of meat, such as he did with Mary Jane Kelly. His attacks to the genitalia of the victim and his taking parts of the reproductive organs were no accident, and bears this out. I'm sure he lived right in the neighborhood of his crimes or very near to them. The fact that he headed back into the East End after the Mitre Square murder indicates he was either returning home or to some safe place for him. I have a hypothesis as to why he did this and why he then took a month off; however, it is too early to present it and further research must be done. I don't think he necessarily lived "very close to Bucks Row," as all of the murder locations are within one square mile or so. I have walked to all the murder sites, starting at Bucks Row and heading west, in an anticlockwise manner, and was amazed how relatively close they are: I was able to do it in less than hour, and according to my phone, walked just over 2 miles. None of the murder locations are "far" from each other. If geo-profiling has any merit, The Ripper may have lived in or near Thrawl, Flower & Dean, or Brick Lane, just to name a few possibilities. He knew the area intimately and made good use of the all the nooks and dark streets and blind alleys. If you ever have the opportunity to take a "Ripper Walk," by all means do so; you will see firsthand the small area where the Ripper "held his wont to walk..."

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      Highly recommend Tom Wescott's The Bank Holiday Murders which discusses possible attacks/murders by the Whitechapel murderer before the C5.

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      • #4
        It's worth noting that many serial killers start relatively close to home with attacks and then tend to progress to neighbouring areas.

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        • #5
          Nichols was murdered close to the London Hospital.

          Chapman a bit further away.

          You might be on to something.
          Last edited by DJA; 12-09-2024, 05:51 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DJA View Post
            Nichols was murdered close to the London Hospital.

            Chapman a bit further away.

            You might be on to something.
            Quite possibly but I highly doubt it has anything to do with Henry Gawen Sutton.

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