Break ups

[elmore 77]

must've been true wub

[Jon Guy]

Bloody hopeless.

127 years and that is your best.

Does this random post refer to my post ?

[DJA]

Yep.

In her white apron.

[elmore 77]

coffee and shopping?

[DJA]

Great question!

Suspect she was a "trophy wife".

[elmore 77]

just curious,does anyone know what mary did while joe was at work?

[DJA]

Bloody hopeless.

127 years and that is your best.

[Jon Guy]

Hi Michael

Now, that's misleading Jon,...

In what way ?
I believe it answers the OP quite succinctly.

Liz Stride left her lodging house with enough money for her doss

Yes, fortunately, she got a one off job that Saturday cleaning up for the deputy keeper of the lodging house.
What about Sunday night`s doss, Michael ? Or Monday`s ?

Kate Eddowes didn't seek out John Kelly who had earned money for their bed that night,

She wouldn`t have known that.
Looks like she`s gone and walked straight outta jail to try and get money for a bed

and room 13 was registered as a weekly rental under the name of Mary Jane Kelly.

C`mon Michael, everyone knows Kelly was forced to go out on the streets because Barnett had lost his job.

We have evidence that just 2 of the Canonicals admitted to confidants that they were soliciting for their bed money the night they were killed.

Yes, my point exactly, thank you.

The killer who preyed on strangers, Unfortunates soliciting, is a myth....only 2 of 5 Canonicals have evidence that supports that claim.

Actually, 2 of the canonicals told friends they were trying to get the money for their doss, they didn`t say how.
Yet, 2 other canonicals are seen on the streets talking to men shortly before they are murdered.

But let`s not restrict ourselves to the Canonical 5, Michael ;-)
McKenzie had words with her man about money before storming off, and Coles fell out with her boyfriend for the weekend, Sadler

Why weren't the likes of married women like Mrs Mahoney attacked, when they nipped out to the chandler at 2am in the morning ?
Probably because they avoided contact or initiating contact with men on the street.

[DJA]

Hey short term memory,

"Mary Kelly was the cause of it all."

You claim the murders stopped after Kelly. They didn't.

Your reasoning being?

MO,signature,geographical profile......ROFL!!!!!

Although I cannot link the Scotland Yard torso,there is a feeling Jack might have been involved. Dunno.

[DJA]

Kensei,

Do you reckon the opportunity of blackmailing Jack,getting out of the slum and starting a new life was part of their plans?

[RockySullivan]

Which theory?

Hey short term memory,

"Mary Kelly was the cause of it all."

You claim the murders stopped after Kelly. They didn't.

[kensei]

Just thought I'd chime in with a few comments on the theme of "breakups."

It's always been my strong impression that Kelly and Barnett were not actually broken up, but "on a break." He still visited her and I believe they would have ended up living together again if she had lived.

And Eddowes and John Kelly were a solid (though dysfunctional) couple, and I think the reason she did not go straight to him after being released from jail was because she felt bad about having earned some money and wasted it on booze and she felt that she needed to go out and earn some more before going back to him.

Stride, meanwhile, appears to have genuinely broken up with the abusive Kidney, a nice nod to her character which is lacking in so many other areas. The way she was described reacting to her attacker just before her death speaks of a woman who was used to being hit and thrown around, a sad commentary.

[DJA]

However I don't think there is anything to support that theory at all.

Which theory?

[RockySullivan]

Well, he had to stop sometime, even if he'd (by some chance) gone on killing till he was 94. I don't think you can necessarily attribute huge significance to Mary being the last victim. We don't know what made him stop. He could have gone to jail, moved elsewhere and slit his throat, fallen victim to one of those very common Victorian industrial accidents, anything.

And as for the victims living in doss houses in close proximity to each other, we have to remember how many hundreds of people were jammed into doss houses each night in that tiny area of a couple of streets.

Hi Rosella, I agree, although I don't think he stopped with Kelly. Pinchin, Coles, Mckenzie, there are probably more lost in time we don't know about it

[RockySullivan]

Chapman was unwell.....ROFL!
Bit of an understatement.
She was dying of TB.


Polly was chronically ill.
I have some of her and Kate's medical records.
Same initial disease.Both inpatients of Jack's from December 1867.
Due to fatigue,both could appear drunk.

Stride's disease has been staring you in the face for how many years?

Check your shoe size.
Prolly matches your IQ.

An Australian and a Canadian walk into a bar....they should watch where they are going.