Did Jack only kill 3?

[lynn cates]

questions, questions

Hello Simon. Thanks.

"I wish you'd stop asking logical questions."

Funny you should mention that. When I was a wee lad I was frequently chid by adults for that same reason. Sad part, no one could, or would, answer them.

Cheers.
LC

[Monty]

Don Soudens talk at Wolverhampton in 2007 should be made mandatory listening to all students of the case.

They will the realise the importance of contemporary assessment of the area, people and the social interaction.

Failing that read Fishman, or Mayhew or even London.

You may learn something.

Monty

[lynn cates]

Fishman

Hello Neil. Thanks. I am sure it was a great lecture. Don is a great student of the WCM.

Regarding Fishman, I have two of his books, read both. To which do you refer?

Cheers.
LC

[Monty]

Hello Neil. Thanks. I am sure it was a great lecture. Don is a great student of the WCM.

Regarding Fishman, I have two of his books, read both. To which do you refer?

Cheers.
LC

Both, I'd even recommend you read his shopping list.

Monty

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

For reasons we do not yet understand Eddowes' whereabouts on the night of Friday 28th September had to be accounted for.

And so John Kelly accounted for them.

The coroner, the police and the press appear to have been a bunch of credulous dimwits.

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

Fishman, 2

Hello Neil. Thanks. That might be interesting, but perhaps not on a par with his book on social conditions in 1888 and ESPECIALLY the one about socialism/anarchism. Hard to beat.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Come out, come out, wherever you are.

Hello Simon. Thanks.

"For reasons we do not yet understand Eddowes' whereabouts on the night of Friday 28th September had to be accounted for."

Quite. So we must keep looking.

Cheers.
LC

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

With whom could she have had an appointment? Certainly not the Kent Hop Pickers' Association.

Was this, perhaps, the beginning of her choreographed "end"?

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

beats me

Hello Simon. Thanks.

At this point, I cannot offer an intelligent answer. Just drawing blanks.

Cheers.
LC

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

You and me both.

Regards,

Simon

[Cogidubnus]

Don Soudens talk at Wolverhampton in 2007 should be made mandatory listening to all students of the case.

Hi Monty, this caught my eye...is there a written account or published text of this available anywhere please? Sounds like the sort of thing there ought to be...

All the best

Dave

[lynn cates]

try Don

Hello Don. You might try Don himself. He has an amazing array of articles and is very accommodating. I daresay he has a copy.

Cheers.
LC

[Supe]

Dave,

...is there a written account or published text of this available anywhere please? Sounds like the sort of thing there ought to be...

Ah, the penalty I pay for harking back to my days as a university lecturer and speaking without text or notes. There is no extant text and the guy who would have filmed my presentation was too hungover to do so. But write me at newindyreview @aol.com (pull it together of course) and i probably have something to help.

Basically, i urged researchers and writers to ground themselves in LVP social history and mores so as not to come up with often clever, but quite anachronistic, notions. One example I cited was that because Barnett said he often read to Mary about the Ripper of an evening. This has brought for all sorts of ideas, a leading one being that Mary was illiterate.

As I pointed out, though, until there were Victrolas, radios, TVs and beyond the favored after-dinner entertainment was to sit around a fire or stove and have someone read to the rest. There are innumerable examples in history and literature (e.g. Great Expectations) of this. Generally a male would do the reading, not so much from chauvinism as that a woman was making good use of her time sewing or knitting. But there are examples of a husband also having his hands occupied, as with a tailor, in which case a child would do the reading.

The scene Barnett described was probably an example of domestic bliss at No. 13 Miller's Court.

But write to me at the above address and I can send you more information.

Don.

[Michael W Richards]

Hi Lynn,

With whom could she have had an appointment? Certainly not the Kent Hop Pickers' Association.

Was this, perhaps, the beginning of her choreographed "end"?

Regards,

Simon

I speculated Simon that Friday night was the night she made the initial contact that lead to the drinks Saturday evening and likely to her death Sunday morning.

John and Kate were described as "as man and wife" retiring by 9pm, yet they spent most of their time back in London apart. Even so, if she planned to do this its likely she would have told John about the plan, the only reason I can think of him lying about such minor details is that he approved or was part of her scheme. Maybe thats why he waits so long to come forward, even knowing about her jail time Saturday and the murder victim Sunday. He was scared they might have considered offing him as well.

When he suggests he knows who was behind her death at the Inquest he says with some constables placed at his disposal they could catch the man....he doesnt seem to indicate he means its one location and one man.

Ergo, if he was right, our man was part of some kind or group.

Best regards,
Michael

[Michael W Richards]

When he suggests he knows who was behind her death at the Inquest he says with some constables placed at his disposal they could catch the man....he doesnt seem to indicate he means its one location and one man.

Ergo, if he was right, our man was part of some kind or group.

Best regards,
Michael

This section of my post above is a erroneous mixing of Kidney and Kelly testimony, my apologies. It was bugging me that I had mixed them as soon as I logged off and I needed to correct it.

Due to fatigue as a result of some mild insomnia is my plead.

Best regards,
Michael