Stride Photo #2

[JosephDurham]

Thank you for clarifying Mr Evans.

Joseph

[JosephDurham]

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[Stewart P Evans]

Modern

It's a modern image based on the original photograph and constructed, I believe, using CGI. I forget now where it was first published but it was used, again I believe, because of copyright concerns over the original image. As soon as I locate the source I'll give it. Needless to say it has no significance whatsoever as regards Ripper studies - other than avoiding speculation such as this.

[JosephDurham]

Hi all

to me the womans ear on the left looks a lot larger than the photo on the right.

tj

The original photo of Stride that we have appears to have been taken a few feet away, and the new photo closer up. That would answer why the ear appears larger.

Joseph

[Archaic]

Hi, Stephen.

Although I haven't come across any info on that book, someone by the name of Kane Friday posted on an 'Iowa Unsolved Murders Petition' site;
maybe it's him?

Here is the link.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/unsolved-murders

Best regards,
Archaic

[Stephen Thomas]

According to an old thread on this very site, the "Stride" photo in question is from the book "Unsolved Murders" by Kane Friday.

Many thanks Jon



Would anyone know the publication year of this?

[Steven Russell]

Dr. Watson

Thanks for the info, Doc. Sorry for being a suspicious bugger.

Best wishes,

Steve.

[Chris Scott]

Hi Jonathan
many thanks for that
Hope all is well
Chris

[jmenges]

Hi Chris,

I believe they are talking about the same scan of the page that is on the old casebook archive from 2003, and this person is asking if there is a footnote on this page explaining the source of the photo or can a better scan of the complete page be provided.

JM

[Chris Scott]

There is an archived message on Thomas Schacher's German JTR site which reads:
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Titel: Re: Elizabeth Stride, Opfer von Jack???
Beitrag von: academyfightsong am Februar 24, 2006, 09:59:32
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aloha,

das ist eine wachsnachbildung aus dem buch "unsolved murders" von kane friday. "wax reproduction" oder etwas ähnliches steht dort als fussnote... warum scanst du die seite nicht komplett ???

The thread is at

http://jacktheripper.de/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=697.0

Can anyone translate pls?

[jmenges]

According to an old thread on this very site, the "Stride" photo in question is from the book "Unsolved Murders" by Kane Friday.

http://casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/5701.html

JM

[Dr. John Watson]

Dear all,

I may be missing something but surely there is one question which needs to be answered before all others and that is "Where did this image first appear?" We need to identify the book! Doctor Watson must be more frank about how he acquired this image. There has been much discussion on this thread regarding possible methods to generate the image but way too little of where it originated. Let's have some answers.

Dr. Watson: if I do you a disservice I apologise but having read through the thread, it seems to me that you may know more than you are letting on.

Best wishes,

Steve.

Steve. You do me no disservice, but I think you do yourself one by being so blasted suspicious! Believe me, there is no conspiracy here to hide anything from you. The fact is, I stumbled across the image while searching for something on Elizabeth Short. The only reason I saved a copy was because of the photo of "Stride," which I'd never seen before. My mistake was in renaming the file, thereby losing the original file name which might have included the source. Properties data indicates the file was originally uploaded onto the Internet in 2005, and I downloaded it in 2007. When I posted the image, I was almost certain I'd seen it before on these boards, but apparently not. Since then, I've Googled every search term I can think of and read through all of the "hits" with no success. I sent the image to a bookdealer friend who has specialized in true crime titles for many years. He had never seen the image before, but he agreed with me that it did not appear in Roughead's book "Murder and More Murder." He did suggest that from what appears to be a wire in the gutter, the page in the image may have come from a softcover book or pamphlet, most likely of British origin, and probably published some years ago. He offered the opinion that the face in the photo did resemble that of a wax model. So there you have it. I have not given up and I'm sure that some day, one of us will track down the elusive book. One final thing: The image did NOT appear in the Gilmore book, "Severed," or in any other publication concerning the Dahlia case - I have them all.

[Phil Carter]

Hello Steve,

I agree entirely. Provenance is of the utmost importance with all types of historic photographic and documentary "evidence".

best wishes

Phil

[Steven Russell]

Dear all,

I may be missing something but surely there is one question which needs to be answered before all others and that is "Where did this image first appear?" We need to identify the book! Doctor Watson must be more frank about how he acquired this image. There has been much discussion on this thread regarding possible methods to generate the image but way too little of where it originated. Let's have some answers.

Dr. Watson: if I do you a disservice I apologise but having read through the thread, it seems to me that you may know more than you are letting on.

Best wishes,

Steve.

[Jane Coram]

Hi JM,

Yes, I almost lived at Madam Tussauds at one point. Lol. Some of the figures there are totally unbelievable. I always desperately wanted to work there in there modelling department, but no vacancies ever came up. The only way into those jobs is dead men's boots.

Here's the one of Mary Pearcey from the Chamber of Horrors. It's astonishingly good, but I don't recall if it was done from a mask or sketches. It does clearly show the texture of the skin though and shows just how life-like the models were, even back in the 19th century.

Much love

Jane

xxxx