Stride Photo #2

[Archaic]

Good point Rob, lol!

You are a better Sherlock than me.

The World Cat might still be the way to find this book.

Cheers,
Archaic

[Steven Russell]

The photo I believe would be after 1988. It's certainly after 1946 because there is a photo of Elizabeth Short on the same page.

I can't help but feel it's from a modern book.

Rob

I feel it's from a modern book as well. The book must be after 1946 but not necessarily the "Stride" photo. When did the confirmed Stride photo become available?

Regards,

Steve.

[Chris Scott]

There are two copies of the Roughead book for sale on Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/Murder-WILLIAM-Roughead-William-Phelps/dp/B000UZWP9O

[Stephen Thomas]

For what it's worth I reckon that this is a genuine photo of the poor lady.

Hair, eyes, eyebrows, nose, cheekbones, chin, neck, ear, bottom lip, all the same.

As is the plain white background on both photos and the fact that the scar on both photos disappears directly under the chin.

There's also an identical jink in the dress on the right shoulder.

Compare the high contrast 'new' version with the original.



Here's the

[Rob Clack]

I feel it's from a modern book as well. The book must be after 1946 but not necessarily the "Stride" photo. When did the confirmed Stride photo become available?

Regards,

Steve.

It was around 1988.

Rob

[Chris Scott]

I strongly supect the Roughead is NOT the book we are looking for. Although the contents of the book are not on Google Books it is catalogued there and a review of the contents states that the crimes covered in the book are all Scottish (as indeed was Roughead)

"Seven Scotch crimes, from days of King James VI to the present, recounted by a distinguished crime fancier. There's good reading in these old and new cases, for the most exacting real-murder enthusiast, and the writing, if not of the modern hard-hitting school, is far above the usual run. There's an introduction by Phelps, and impressive testimonials by other authors"

The details are at:

http://books.google.com/books?id=hZ6fGQAACAAJ&dq=murder+and+more+murder&lr=&cd=1

[Steven Russell]

Thanks, Rob.

That kills a few theories. Still, the new one is good, isn't it?

Steve.

[Chris Scott]

Doh!
I am being thick!!!
Of course it cannot be the Roughead book!
Why would there be a pic of Elizabeth Short (murdered 1947) in a book published in 1939???

[Steven Russell]

Elizabeths

That's the Long and the Short of it, anyway.

Steve.

[Rob Clack]

Thanks, Rob.

That kills a few theories. Still, the new one is good, isn't it?

Steve.

It's good, but I'm not convinced it's genuine.

Rob

[Steven Russell]

Quite right too. We need the provenance.

Steve.

[m_w_r]

Stephen,

Genuine? Whatever next? Prater living at the front of the house?

In the original image, of the page from which the Stride image was extracted, the photograph at the bottom is of Oscar Slater being tried in Edinburgh in 1909. The text on the left also relates to Slater - you can see his forename, and part of his victim's surname (Gilchrist).

So, whatever else it is, the book seems to be a general coverage of famous murder cases. I think the Stride image is very suspicious, but it is so similar to the famous post-mortem photograph that I'd suggest that the book was published in the last twenty-two years.

Regards,

Mark

[Steven Russell]

I'd suggest that the book was published in the last twenty-two years.

Regards,

Mark[/QUOTE]

Why?

Regards,

Steve.

[m_w_r]

I'd suggest that the book was published in the last twenty-two years.

Regards,

Mark

Why?

Regards,

Steve.

Steve,

I refer you back to post #20.

Regards,

Mark

[Steven Russell]

Why?

Oh! 1988! Sorry, Mark, I misread it as 1888! What a schmuck.

Regards,

Steve.