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  • Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    The coroner placed Liz's time of death between 12:46 and 12:56. Kate was alive at 1:35, discovered at 1:44--if memory serves.
    Hi Lynn,

    Just to clarify, Blackwell's best estimate was within 20 minutes of his arrival at 1:16, but no more than 30 minutes at the very outside. This would put Liz's most likely time of death after 12:56 but certainly no earlier than 12:46.

    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Can no one save Liz's place amongst the canonicals?
    Hi Lynn,

    I think you may have that the wrong way round. If the last poll was anything to go by Liz's place is as safe as houses. Nobody has yet managed to argue her out of Jack's murderous grip.

    The argument that someone else killed Liz and hoped to 'hide' her among the Whitechapel Murderer's victims doesn't quite work because if this assassin didn't have time to make a single Jack-like slash then Jack wouldn't have had time either. Some posters (not you I hasten to add! ) want to have it both ways. Whoever killed Liz was not still with her body at the moment of death, whether he went to hide in the shadows while she lay dying or legged it straight out of the yard after inflicting a single cut. Does this fit with someone she could have identified, who had no experience of inflicting fatal knife wounds and therefore could have bungled this one for all he knew and left her able to talk? Or with a complete stranger who had very recent throat-cutting experience with similar women, and had no fear of this one grassing him up?

    Love,

    Caz
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    Last edited by caz; 10-09-2009, 06:01 PM.
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    • Originally posted by caz View Post
      ...if this assassin didn't have time to make a single Jack-like slash
      I've no doubt that he could have found that extra second somewhere, if he'd needed it, Caz.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • who killed Liz

        Hello Caz. Thanks for the kind remarks.

        Actually, I never intended to argue that someone was trying to pass off Liz as Jack's work. I was merely noting that the police were prepared to see a Jack killing and so did. (There was an analogous passage in the Cadfael episode where the sheriff shrugs and notes that there is only a difference of 1 corpse--so what.) I regret the lack of clarity.

        I have tried reliving all 5 canonical murders and I find very few problems with C1, C2, and C4. But both C3 and C5 give me a headache. (I cannot rest until I can reconstruct the killing satisfactorily.)

        Who killed Liz? I wish for Jack. I don't suspect Kidney because I think such a chap would have broken down and confessed at the inquest while blubbering like a baby. I feel like it could be an ex-client, perhaps falling in love with Liz.

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • Well caz, the lack of logic is a reasonable way to argue Liz out of JTR's vics. See my earlier posts about why that is.

          Question to anybody: Why are all the links under the "Witnesses" section on the left of the screen completely empty? They just link to a page which says: "No data has been posted about them" or something like that.

          And Kidney isn't listed under the suspect list, and he too has no data under his linked name on the Witness list.

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