Elizabeth's murder and the double event

[Wickerman]

Ok, sorry, I thought you were alluding to Kelly lying. I just recall Simon & LynnC. offering that view as an argument, I assumed you were doing the same.

Now I'm left guessing what your argument is :-)

[packers stem]

Ok, sorry, I thought you were alluding to Kelly lying. I just recall Simon & LynnC. offering that view as an argument, I assumed you were doing the same.

Now I'm left guessing what your argument is :-)

Plenty he lied about
But the taking into custody of Eddowes wasn't one of them clearly as she was .
He was just premature in mentioning it

[Bridewell]

You're both assuming she was drunk .
Ever been so drunk you need picking up off the floor and help to walk ?
If so you'll also know that once your head goes down you don't wake up four hours later singing and asking to be free from the dry bed you've found by chance .

One thing I learned in 13 years as a police custody sergeant - every drunk is different. Everyone's metabolism is different. Some drunks are placid, some violent. Some are noisy, some quiet. Some sober up quickly, some don't. Some want to be let out as soon as possible; some are happy to stay locked up and maybe get a free breakfast out of it. One size most definitely does not fit all.

She wasn't drunk.

The only witnesses who can give evidence of opinion are those deemed by the court to be expert. It is accepted in the UK courts that a police officer can give such evidence with regard to drunkenness. More than one officer opined that Eddowes was drunk. On the balance of probabilities (at least) that is what she was.

[Wickerman]

Plenty he lied about
But the taking into custody of Eddowes wasn't one of them clearly as she was .
He was just premature in mentioning it

Oh brother!

Ok, if Kelly wasn't clairvoyant, or lying, then how could Kelly mention Kate's arrest prematurely?