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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Henry Flower View Post
    GUT - re your giving up on the whole sanity thing, it had been widely noted, rest assured

    DicksyNix:



    Evidence often survives being lost, but no evidence ever survives being destroyed. This particular piece of evidence is alleged to have survived precisely because it was pilfered.
    G'day Henry

    And proud of it I be.

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  • Henry Flower
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    GUT - re your giving up on the whole sanity thing, it had been widely noted, rest assured

    DicksyNix:

    Am I to assume that an actual piece of physical evidence survived being lost, destroyed, or pilfered?
    Evidence often survives being lost, but no evidence ever survives being destroyed. This particular piece of evidence is alleged to have survived precisely because it was pilfered.

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  • alkuluku
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    Richard .... E Nixon?
    What´s with the E?

    the best,
    Fisherman
    First letter of evil?

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  • Fisherman
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    Richard .... E Nixon?
    What´s with the E?

    the best,
    Fisherman

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  • Panderoona
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    To give a short recount:
    Not sure when it first showed up, family descendants of Pc Simpson leant it to the Yards Black Museum. It had no proven relationship to the case so eventually it was given back. It was then put up for auction where it didn't reach its reserve, but was sold immediately after to Russell Edwards.

    Pc Simpson was met police, and Kate Eddowes died in city police area. Simpson was later proven to have moved to Cheshunt Herts 1881 and was stationed there at the northern end of N division. No where near Mitre Square.
    Police inventories of Eddowes earlier arrest for drunkenness and the scene of her demise describe no such shawl, neither does a police sketch of the scene.
    Make of that what you will.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Henry Flower View Post
    Mr President,

    This question has really been covered to death in the main thread on the subject of the shawl. You can get yourself up to speed on that by skimming that very extensive thread. I don't think we really need another thread going over the same ground again. Most of us are still trying to regain our sanity after reading the first one
    G'day Henry

    I've given up on the whole sanity thing.

    Probably given up on the table cloth too.

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  • Henry Flower
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    Mr President,

    This question has really been covered to death in the main thread on the subject of the shawl. You can get yourself up to speed on that by skimming that very extensive thread. I don't think we really need another thread going over the same ground again. Most of us are still trying to regain our sanity after reading the first one

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  • GUT
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    G'day Trick Dicky

    According to Mr E it was pinched by a police man [Amos Simpson] and took a blood and semen stained piece of material home to wifey, but since there is no record of it at the scene of the murder nor at the mortuary, and the ridiculous nature of any claim that a police officer [with the approval of his supervisor according to Edwards] would take evidence let alone take such an item home to his wife, many doubt this.

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  • Richard E. Nixon
    started a topic Where Did The Shawl Come From?

    Where Did The Shawl Come From?

    I've been reading about Jack The Ripper since the Autumn of 1988 and I never heard a single thing about a shawl until recently. Am I to assume that an actual piece of physical evidence survived being lost, destroyed, or pilfered?

    I don't recall Eddowes' belongings being recorded anywhere. And wouldn't she have been buried in the clothes she was wearing at the time of her death, or did a funeral home provide a nice dress free of charge?
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