The Apron's Significance

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  • etenguy
    Chief Inspector
    • Jul 2017
    • 1573

    #1

    The Apron's Significance

    Following the murder of Catherine Eddowes, a decent sized piece of bloodied apron was found in Goulston Street just under a cryptic piece of graffiti – the exact words of which we cannot be entirely sure. The piece of apron matched perfectly the remnant of apron found at the murder site. From this we can deduce the murderer removed the apron from the murder scene and deposited it in Goulston Street. This is generally, but not universally, accepted to explain how the portion of apron arrived in Goulston Street.

    If we accept the general consensus, then this will be the first time that it is known for the murderer to take a piece of clothing from the murder scene which raises the question why did he do that? I would argue this was a deliberate act for an intended purpose and I reach this conclusion after considering potential options.

    1. It is sometimes suggested the apron piece was taken to transport the organs that were removed from the murder scene. I would argue this is unlikely since if that were the case, why was the apron discarded at Goulston street? To dispose of incriminating evidence I hear some shout – except the organs were not discarded and they are far more incriminating. The organs though must have been in some container, and one the murderer brought with him I would argue, since he would not have been aware he might find a useful carrying device at the scene, and besides he had used some other container when he took Annie Chapman’s uterus, so I infer he did not need the apron portion for this purpose.

    2. Some have argued he took the apron portion to clean up blood from his hands or person. It is of course possible, but if that were the case, why not just wipe his hands at the scene, it would have taken seconds. But if he felt he had no time and left with the apron piece for this reason, he waited some ten minutes before arriving at Goulston street before doing so. I think this is unlikely and he would have done so sooner if this was his intention.


    3. It has also been suggested that the murderer cut himself and took the apron piece to stem the flow of blood as he left the scene. I find this unlikely also. If the cut was serious enough that he needed to stem the flow of blood, it is unlikely it would have stopped in the short time he travelled to Goulston street. If the cut was more minor, then I think unlikely he would cut a piece of dirty apron to cover the cut in the first place.

    4.
    I would argue there was a different reason and it was one or both of the following
    a) He deliberately took the apron piece to Goulston street to deceive the police and suggest to them that he went that way on his route home. A subterfuge which would possibly mean that the murderer lived in the city (and hence would explain the journey direction from Stride to Eddowes murder scenes led to the city). Having given such an unintended clue he sought to send the police in the wrong direction.
    b) He took the apron piece to authentic the message found at Goulston Street. He may have been agitated as a result of being interrupted with Stride and wanted to leave a message that the police would know was from him and not a hoax message from a member of the public.

    I think it is entirely possible that he was attempting to do as I describe in option 4, either one or the other or both, but I would strongly suspect it was primarily to deceive the police and send them in the wrong direction. This would lead me to consider strongly whether we can deduce that the ripper lived in the city, and not in Whitechapel. He was heading home after the Elizabeth Stride attack, back to the city, when he murdered Catherine Eddowes and realizing this might point people to the general direction of where he lived, he decided on taking the apron and placing it in the opposite direction to deceive the police – and if the GSG was written by the murderer, this was potentially part of the subterfuge also, to make police think it was there for authentication of the GSG and not to send them in the wrong direction.


  • Herlock Sholmes
    Commissioner
    • May 2017
    • 23574

    #2
    Originally posted by etenguy View Post
    Following the murder of Catherine Eddowes, a decent sized piece of bloodied apron was found in Goulston Street just under a cryptic piece of graffiti – the exact words of which we cannot be entirely sure. The piece of apron matched perfectly the remnant of apron found at the murder site. From this we can deduce the murderer removed the apron from the murder scene and deposited it in Goulston Street. This is generally, but not universally, accepted to explain how the portion of apron arrived in Goulston Street.

    If we accept the general consensus, then this will be the first time that it is known for the murderer to take a piece of clothing from the murder scene which raises the question why did he do that? I would argue this was a deliberate act for an intended purpose and I reach this conclusion after considering potential options.

    1. It is sometimes suggested the apron piece was taken to transport the organs that were removed from the murder scene. I would argue this is unlikely since if that were the case, why was the apron discarded at Goulston street? To dispose of incriminating evidence I hear some shout – except the organs were not discarded and they are far more incriminating. The organs though must have been in some container, and one the murderer brought with him I would argue, since he would not have been aware he might find a useful carrying device at the scene, and besides he had used some other container when he took Annie Chapman’s uterus, so I infer he did not need the apron portion for this purpose.

    2. Some have argued he took the apron portion to clean up blood from his hands or person. It is of course possible, but if that were the case, why not just wipe his hands at the scene, it would have taken seconds. But if he felt he had no time and left with the apron piece for this reason, he waited some ten minutes before arriving at Goulston street before doing so. I think this is unlikely and he would have done so sooner if this was his intention.


    3. It has also been suggested that the murderer cut himself and took the apron piece to stem the flow of blood as he left the scene. I find this unlikely also. If the cut was serious enough that he needed to stem the flow of blood, it is unlikely it would have stopped in the short time he travelled to Goulston street. If the cut was more minor, then I think unlikely he would cut a piece of dirty apron to cover the cut in the first place.

    4.
    I would argue there was a different reason and it was one or both of the following
    a) He deliberately took the apron piece to Goulston street to deceive the police and suggest to them that he went that way on his route home. A subterfuge which would possibly mean that the murderer lived in the city (and hence would explain the journey direction from Stride to Eddowes murder scenes led to the city). Having given such an unintended clue he sought to send the police in the wrong direction.
    b) He took the apron piece to authentic the message found at Goulston Street. He may have been agitated as a result of being interrupted with Stride and wanted to leave a message that the police would know was from him and not a hoax message from a member of the public.


    I think it is entirely possible that he was attempting to do as I describe in option 4, either one or the other or both, but I would strongly suspect it was primarily to deceive the police and send them in the wrong direction. This would lead me to consider strongly whether we can deduce that the ripper lived in the city, and not in Whitechapel. He was heading home after the Elizabeth Stride attack, back to the city, when he murdered Catherine Eddowes and realizing this might point people to the general direction of where he lived, he decided on taking the apron and placing it in the opposite direction to deceive the police – and if the GSG was written by the murderer, this was potentially part of the subterfuge also, to make police think it was there for authentication of the GSG and not to send them in the wrong direction.


    Hi Eten, good to see you posting.

    Good points. I wouldn’t disagree with any of what you’ve written although none of the points are conclusive of course. On point 2 perhaps we could suggest that he may have wiped his hands at the scene but he might have taken the cloth for a better clean up when he was away from the immediate scene of the murder if he needed one. As he was getting away perhaps he noticed (as he got near to a lamp) that he had blood on his shoes or trousers so he decided on a clean up before continuing his escape. It seems unlikely that he’d have been willing to do this on the pavement with the chance of being seen and so when he saw the doorway he saw his opportunity.

    I’m certainly not saying that’s what happened though. It certainly could have been the case that he was ‘authenticating’ the graffito or trying to throw the police of his track (or both)
    Herlock Sholmes

    ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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    • etenguy
      Chief Inspector
      • Jul 2017
      • 1573

      #3
      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      Hi Eten, good to see you posting.

      Good points. I wouldn’t disagree with any of what you’ve written although none of the points are conclusive of course. On point 2 perhaps we could suggest that he may have wiped his hands at the scene but he might have taken the cloth for a better clean up when he was away from the immediate scene of the murder if he needed one. As he was getting away perhaps he noticed (as he got near to a lamp) that he had blood on his shoes or trousers so he decided on a clean up before continuing his escape. It seems unlikely that he’d have been willing to do this on the pavement with the chance of being seen and so when he saw the doorway he saw his opportunity.

      I’m certainly not saying that’s what happened though. It certainly could have been the case that he was ‘authenticating’ the graffito or trying to throw the police of his track (or both)
      Thanks Herlock - had a health issue which took some time to recover from, but back now and looking forward to catching up on what I have missed.

      The Apron has always been niggling at the back of my mind - I am sure it tells us something, but whether my ruminations are close or not, still can't say for sure, but it seems to make sense to me that taking the apron was deliberate and with purpose.

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