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  • Jon Guy
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    It may be nothing but at the time Alice McKenzie was murdered there was an engineer on site at the Goulston Street Baths and wash house (which back onto the McKenzie murder site in Castle Alley).

    If such a person was the culprit, it would explain:

    Why the rag was deposited in Goulston Street
    Why it may have been dropped there after 2.20am
    Why it was still bloody and wet (although I don`t see a problem with the rag not drying out in just over an hour)

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  • Fisherman
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    Long speaking at the inquest, taken from the Times, Friday the 12:th of October 1888:

    By Mr. Crawford. - He had not noticed the wall before. He noticed the piece of apron first, and then the words on the wall. One corner of the apron was wet with blood.

    My personal take on the Morning Advertiser snippet Gareth used, "I [...] found a portion of a woman's apron. It had recent stains of blood on it, one corner being wet", is that it should be read "I [...] found a portion of a woman's apron. It had recent stains of blood on it, one corner being wet with blood".

    Apparently both the stains and a wet corner were mentioned in this context. However, just as the Morning Advertiser does not spell out that blood was what made the apron corner wet, the Times does not mention the stains in this particular sentence, whereas they ARE mentioned by Long in this report too, a bit further up: "There were recent stains of blood on it." .

    The logical conclusion should be obvious.

    This is why I ask what explanation there can be to the apron corner still being wet with blood some seventy minutes after Eddowes was killed. And - of course - this is also why I suggest that the wet blood could have come from a cut killer.

    All the best,
    Fisherman
    Last edited by Fisherman; 07-07-2014, 12:00 AM.

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  • Barnaby
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    Would a blood stain look different if first the apron was wet and then blood got on it versus the blood came first and then it was made wet? This is such as esoteric question but what I'm trying to get at for no good reason is whether the skirt got wet as she was lying on the ground and after the mutilations he caught off a piece of the wet garment to wipe off, or if the skirt was dry and the blood stained portion of it got wet when it was disposed of in Goulston Street?

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  • Wickerman
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    "The piece of apron, one corner of which was wet with blood. "
    Daily Telegraph.

    I guess the blood was wet because the rag was wet, and the rag was wet because the ground was wet.

    Sort'a like, the kneebone's connected to the thighbone, kind'a thing.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    Doesn't really matter what was on it, sitting in water would help keep it wet.
    Totally agree. It was a wet night. I was being facetious as I think its kind of irrelevant .

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  • GUT
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    G'day Abby

    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Ah. But was it wet with water, or blood, or feces or perhaps something else.
    The mystery deepens!!
    Doesn't really matter what was on it, sitting in water would help keep it wet.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    The Bit I've highlighted seems the simplest explanation to me.
    Ah. But was it wet with water, or blood, or feces or perhaps something else.
    The mystery deepens!!

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  • GUT
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    G'day Sam

    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Taken across from the "Time Gap" thread.

    "I [...] found a portion of a woman's apron. It had recent stains of blood on it, one corner being wet." (Morning Advertiser, 12th October). Similar reports appear in other papers, all of which would seem to confirm that there were blood stains elsewhere on the apron, with only one particular corner being wet. Perhaps that corner had lain in a pocket of rainwater on the passage floor, keeping it damper than the rest of the cloth.
    The Bit I've highlighted seems the simplest explanation to me.

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  • DVV
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    But bloodstains don't fear anything - except cold water, Gareth.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    One corner was wet with blood

    Taken across from the "Time Gap" thread.
    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    Has anybody gotten around to explaining why the apron corner was still wet with blood some seventy minutes after Edowes was killed?
    "I [...] found a portion of a woman's apron. It had recent stains of blood on it, one corner being wet." (Morning Advertiser, 12th October). Similar reports appear in other papers, all of which would seem to confirm that there were blood stains elsewhere on the apron, with only one particular corner being wet. Perhaps that corner had lain in a pocket of rainwater on the passage floor, keeping it damper than the rest of the cloth.
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