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  • #61


    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

    Just to dampen your sarcasm it is still normal procedure for the authorities to use the services of a plan drawer for court purposes in major cases and it seems that in 1888 that was the procedure and Foster didnt try to replicate Browns sketch and even Browns sketch is not accurate the clothes were drawn up his sketch shows they were cut completely open ]

    Of course the plan I posted was for the Coroner's Court.
    It said so in the bottom left hand margin.



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    • #62
      Originally posted by DJA View Post

      Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

      Just to dampen your sarcasm it is still normal procedure for the authorities to use the services of a plan drawer for court purposes in major cases and it seems that in 1888 that was the procedure and Foster didnt try to replicate Browns sketch and even Browns sketch is not accurate the clothes were drawn up his sketch shows they were cut completely open ]

      Of course the plan I posted was for the Coroner's Court.
      It said so in the bottom left hand margin.


      and so were all the other sketches prepared by Foster

      www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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      • #63
        So am i getting an apology or what
        'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

          and so were all the other sketches prepared by Foster

          www.trevormarriott.co.uk
          The big ones like Mitre Square are known as Foster's Larger
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          • #65
            Originally posted by DJA View Post

            The big ones like Mitre Square are known as Foster's Larger
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            “Contrariwise,” continued Tweedledee, “if it was so, it might be, and if it were so, it would be but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s logic.”

            “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be,” said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.”

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            • #66
              Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

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              I don't need a gun! I've got a DONK!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DJA View Post

                The two Xanthelasmas required light and a small scalpel,so Sutton strangled Eddowes inside 6 Mitre Street, whilst waiting for Edward Watkin to make his 1.30am pass with lantern.
                The other injuries would have been inflicted in the corner of Mitre Square.
                However, ...

                Originally posted by DJA View Post

                They were not mutilations.
                Andrew's the man, that is not blamed for nothing

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by DJA View Post
                  ... Are you aware of the significance of Eddowes' navel being cut around? ...
                  It's what a surgeon would instinctively do...?

                  Originally posted by DJA View Post
                  Rhetorical question
                  Whoops. Sorry.

                  M.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                    It's what a surgeon would instinctively do...?



                    Whoops. Sorry.

                    M.
                    Edmond Neale a consultant gynecologist would disageree

                    "In addition to the post mortem report, I have also seen a drawing and a photograph of the body before the post mortem. I am first struck by the jagged appearance of the abdominal wound. This does not look like a surgical incision. The irregular nature of it and some of the minor wounds to underlying organs suggests to me that possibly the knife (the pathologists at the time conjectured a thin blade of 6-8 inches) entered probably the upper portion of the abdomen which was then opened by pulling the knife upwards, possibly with a sawing motion, as opposed to a surgical incision where one would press down with the blade on the skin. In other words, the irregular line suggests the abdomen was opened from inside out rather than outside in. I believe this approach would allow maximum pressure to be exerted on the abdominal wall whilst minimizing the damage to the internal organs.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                      It's what a surgeon would instinctively do...?



                      Whoops. Sorry.

                      M.
                      It's a reference to a remark made by Wynne Weston Davies, 'prosector' on these boards, who as a surgeon was struck by it as a well known technique. He discusses it in a Rippercast which is well worth a listen.

                      Despite his preferred suspect being dismissed, he does offer an interesting insight, and the research that went into his Mary Kelly theory and it's solving is a credit to the field. He was pretty gracious about it all too, so all round a decent bloke.
                      Thems the Vagaries.....

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