The Apron

[Trevor Marriott]

Trevor, why would she cut up half the apron and then wear the other half? Wouldn't it make more sense to cut up the whole apron? The apron is pretty much ruined.

And precise removal of the organs? I don't think that is the case with Eddowes, in fact he made a bit of a horlix of it all.

Edit: Moreover, once the apron became an important part of the investigation, wouldn't the logical course of action be to ask the policemen at the station were Eddowes was held, the state of her apron at the time she left the police station, especially if it was found cut into 13 pieces as you say?

Nowhere anywhere, did anyone say or write at the time that her apron was cut up into pieces. Why in ripperology must some people pull stuff from thin air with absolutely no basis of evidence whatsoever?

I am merely looking at alternative scenarios to that which has been readily accepted for over 123 years. Because no matter how you look at it that as i have said before does not come up to close scrutiny.

So I wil ask again why would Edowwes have 12 pieces of rag and where did she get them from to have been able to cut them up in the first place, and of course they were apron coloured white

[Garza]

Trevor, why would she cut up half the apron and then wear the other half? Wouldn't it make more sense to cut up the whole apron? The apron is pretty much ruined.

And precise removal of the organs? I don't think that is the case with Eddowes, in fact he made a bit of a horlix of it all.

Edit: Moreover, once the apron became an important part of the investigation, wouldn't the logical course of action be to ask the policemen at the station were Eddowes was held, the state of her apron at the time she left the police station, especially if it was found cut into 13 pieces as you say?

Nowhere anywhere, did anyone say or write at the time that her apron was cut up into pieces. Why in ripperology must some people pull stuff from thin air with absolutely no basis of evidence whatsoever?

[Fleetwood Mac]

I was picturing this last night.

It seems this was a big piece of apron.

How does he carry this thing around?

Presumably it's quite bulky when folded or wrapped - does he run down the street with this thing slung over his shoulder? Does he attach it to himself somehow? Will it fit neatly into his pocket or will he have to carry it?

Also, why doesn't he use one of Eddowes' pieces of cloth. Judging by Inspector Collard's statement her pockets were rifled. Surely it would have been more expedient to take what was already available?

Oh, and Tom, on reflection I agree. For Long to see the apron at 2.55 it must have been visible from the street; if he says it wasn't visible from the street at 2.20 then you're absolutely correct in that must be assumed it wasn't there.

[Trevor Marriott]

Laughable wouldn't be at the top of my descriptive list of words.

Another amendment to one of the ,countrys leading Ripper experts'. It was Long who found the apron, not Watkins as Trevor states.

And there was a not of items removed. Not exstensive granted, but it is mentioned.

This is basic stuff.

Monty

We all make mistakes just glad i dont put my foot in it as many times as you

[Trevor Marriott]

Cris,

I give up.
Beam me up Scotty

I quite agree.

Of course, the Mitre Square apron part was matched to that in Goulston Street by the fact that it was riven across a patch and yet no mention that there was nor bottom hem and, in fact, a substantial part was missing and cut into 12 sanitary napkin substitutes. The whole idea is laughable.

Don.

No more laughable than the suggestion that the killer after subjecting her to a ferocious attack, calmy stops the attack and performs precise surgical removal of the organs, then performs a precise move to cut a perfect piece off of the apron taking it away with him and then for no obvious reason deposits it a third of a mile away.

I have seen pics of victorian womens apron posted on here which beleive has confused people. There were two types of aprons worn the full length and the smaller one pic attcahed. This is the type of apron which is likley to have strimgs attcahed.