Mitre Sq., arranged meeting scenarios

[Sam Flynn]

Heading for London Bridge, on her way to Bermondsey, to her daughters?

Quite possible, Jon.

[Trevor Marriott]

Sure it is supposition. However, I am asking if it is impossible? To which you mentioned more barriers but not that it is impossible. So I think even you accept it could be possible that she learned somehow that it was raining outside. We don't know either way.

But if as is being suggested she had a pre arranged meeting and wanted to get out would it matter to her if it was raining or not?

If she had wanted to stay in custody overnight she simply could have played still being drunk.

Researches should stop inventing sinister scenarios out a non sinister chain of events.

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[Joshua Rogan]

Sure it is supposition. However, I am asking if it is impossible? To which you mentioned more barriers but not that it is impossible. So I think even you accept it could be possible that she learned somehow that it was raining outside. We don't know either way.

Pc Smith from the Stride inquest (Times 6 Oct);

When did it last rain before 1 o'clock? -To the best of my recollection, it rained very little after 11 o'clock.

[Wickerman]

I suppose if you do look at the circumstances, it really does seem odd that Kate just decides on a complete "Whim" to turn left and walk towards Mitre Square, when the quickest way home was turning to the right.

Heading for London Bridge, on her way to Bermondsey, to her daughters?

[PRB]

There's as many spanners in the Ripper mystery as there are nuts.

Oh, bravo, Sir!

[Simon Wood]

Hi Packers,

There's as many spanners in the Ripper mystery as there are nuts.

Regards,

Simon

[packers stem]

Hi Packers,

Was Eddowes the woman arrested in Aldgate?

Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon

Interesting
We do have Kelly being 75 minutes premature with his advising Wilkinson that Kate was spending the night with the boys in blue which throws in a rather large spanner ...

Nick

[Batman]

Were there any ? to suggest there were is pure supposition on your part

There were in total 6 cells at Bishopsgate. Women were kept apart from the men, and only doubled up if there were to many prisoners and not enough cells

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Sure it is supposition. However, I am asking if it is impossible? To which you mentioned more barriers but not that it is impossible. So I think even you accept it could be possible that she learned somehow that it was raining outside. We don't know either way.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Packers,

Was Eddowes the woman arrested in Aldgate?

Regards,

Simon

[packers stem]

Sergeant James Byfield, of the City Police: I remember the deceased being brought to the Bishopsgate Station at a quarter to nine o'clock on the night of Saturday, Sept. 29.

[Coroner] In what condition was she? - Very drunk. She was brought in supported by two constables and placed in a cell, where she remained until one o'clock the next morning, when she had got sober.

And nothing is as sinister as you make it out to be ! Some people sober up very quickly and there is no evidence that she was stone cold sober on her release.

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Trevor
In Aldgate she was picked up off the ground and fell back down
She needed the support of two constables to make it to Bishopsgate at 8.45 and yet three hours later singing
If you've ever been that drunk , and yes on a couple of New year's eve's I have 😀 , you'll know you aren't sober four hours later .
The woman was faking it or drugged
And as she was the first victim ( as far as i'm aware only one )who's stomach contents were sent for a narcotics test , then that does have some support

Further in regards to the rain
No mention of a weather report ???
It's what people do in our country constantly , talk about the weather .
I'm not someone who believes that every single word uttered inside a police station gets written down

[Trevor Marriott]

What about other female prisoners brought in?

Were there any ? to suggest there were is pure supposition on your part

There were in total 6 cells at Bishopsgate. Women were kept apart from the men, and only doubled up if there were to many prisoners and not enough cells

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[Batman]

What about other female prisoners brought in?

[Trevor Marriott]

Would that be impossible for her to learn Trevor? Either by observing those coming in, possibly hearing the rain or being told it's raining out by one of the PCs checking on her?

[Coroner] "How often did you visit the prisoners? - About every half-hour. At first the deceased remained asleep; but at a quarter to twelve she was awake, I went to her again at half-past twelve, and she then asked when she would be able to get out"

So she was asleep apart from the last 60 mins or so

No mention of a weather report, or her asking the officer about the weather
She would have been kept in a female cell which as likely as not would have had a sealed door so if that be the case she would not have been able to communicate with any other prisoners.

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[Trevor Marriott]

To all intents and purposes she was homeless that night
She was also miraculously stone cold sober three hours after being unable to stand
Nothing was as it appeared to be .

Sergeant James Byfield, of the City Police: I remember the deceased being brought to the Bishopsgate Station at a quarter to nine o'clock on the night of Saturday, Sept. 29.

[Coroner] In what condition was she? - Very drunk. She was brought in supported by two constables and placed in a cell, where she remained until one o'clock the next morning, when she had got sober.

And nothing is as sinister as you make it out to be ! Some people sober up very quickly and there is no evidence that she was stone cold sober on her release.

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[packers stem]

How would she know it was raining outside she was locked up in a cell.

And I am telling you that for over 40 years of dealing with prisoners they all want out as soon as is possible. The only ones who want to stay are the homeless in todays society who commit crime just so as they get a roof over their head and a comfortable bed to sleep in, thats not at a hotel its called prison.

It a ridiculous suggestion for anyone to say that she had a pre arranged meeting.

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To all intents and purposes she was homeless that night
She was also miraculously stone cold sober three hours after being unable to stand
Nothing was as it appeared to be .