Denial, Desperation and Dishonesty - Defending Stephen Knight’s Nonsense

[Herlock Sholmes]

Im more than happy with the medical expert opinion of Dr Theodore Dyke Acland, gulls own son in law. which concurs with the above article.

We know what happened to Gull!

Where is your evidence that Abberline questioned Gull over the murders. How long can you keep avoiding this?

And where is your evidence showing that Simon’s research was wrong?

Ive lost count of how many times I’ve asked these questions.

Lets have some integrity Fishy.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Wilkes and Bettany,sBiographical History of Guy's Hospital WOULD YOU RATHER THIS SOURCE ? OR A NEWSPAPER? .my apologies for the earlier line i tried to edit it out. im here to post my opinion not to insult others from giving theirs .

As for the above article im sure just as Herlock has suggested he has a newspaper thats says what it says, ive posted this one. people can make up there own minds.

They both said the same thing!

You see what you want to see.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Well it like i said, and in plain English just so the chief guru can read . Faircloughs forward shown j.s was clearly unhappy with the way knight interpreted his story . but its obvious when you read the forward he believed what he was saying in relation to his story . so... the i made the whole thing up and it was a whopping big fib was clearly to get back at knight . so at the very least if you dont believe j.s thats fine, say it for any reason but not for the reason to discredited knights book

So unless i see where j.s said after 1991 ''oh by the way guys you know that forward i was asked to do in Faircloughs book? . yeah well that was all made up and a big hoax too''. then ill stand by my belief
it wasnt.

You can believe that it wasn’t a lie but you were trying to say that just because JS explained why he retracted then that proved that he was being truthful when he changed and said that he was telling the truth. This is a man changing his story with no increase of evidence. It’s not proof that the story was true.

[FISHY1118]

Im more than happy with the medical expert opinion of Dr Theodore Dyke Acland, gulls own son in law. which concurs with the above article.

[Elamarna]

Wilkes and Bettany,sBiographical History of Guy's Hospital WOULD YOU RATHER THIS SOURCE ? OR A NEWSPAPER? .my apologies for the earlier line i tried to edit it out. im here to post my opinion not to insult others from giving theirs .

As for the above article im sure just as Herlock has suggested he has a newspaper thats says what it says, ive posted this one. people can make up there own minds.

Am I correct in think that you have not in fact spoken to experts on Gull?
To prefer one short section in a general history, over the knowledge of experts is I am afraid, not the key to meaningful research.

Steve

[FISHY1118]

Wilkes and Bettany,sBiographical History of Guy's Hospital WOULD YOU RATHER THIS SOURCE ? OR A NEWSPAPER? .my apologies for the earlier line i tried to edit it out. im here to post my opinion not to insult others from giving theirs .

As for the above article im sure just as Herlock has suggested he has a newspaper thats says what it says, ive posted this one. people can make up there own minds.

[FISHY1118]

Well it like i said, and in plain English just so the chief guru can read . Faircloughs forward shown j.s was clearly unhappy with the way knight interpreted his story . but its obvious when you read the forward he believed what he was saying in relation to his story . so... the i made the whole thing up and it was a whopping big fib was clearly to get back at knight . so at the very least if you dont believe j.s thats fine, say it for any reason but not for the reason to discredited knights book

So unless i see where j.s said after 1991 ''oh by the way guys you know that forward i was asked to do in Faircloughs book? . yeah well that was all made up and a big hoax too''. then ill stand by my belief
it wasnt.

[FISHY1118]

Wilkes and Bettany,sBiographical History of Guy's Hospital WOULD YOU RATHER THIS SOURCE ? OR A NEWSPAPER? its perfectly clear you have no clue what your talking about .

[Simon Wood]

Hi Herlock,

No more or less than I expected.

Regards,

Simon

[Herlock Sholmes]

With respect Elamarna ,you have come into this conversation way to late, this has been going on for weeks, went through all that, but it didnt matter so this is whats happens in the end , but thanks anyway .

And by the way, Steve is correct. Why don’t you use the quote function? It’s hard to tell who you are responding to.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Which shows no respect for fellow posters at all.
And it is not for you to say someone joins a debate too late, it is clear you have no respect for any opinion but your own.

Steve

Hello Steve,

I realise that I’m wasting my time here. I was hoping that Fishy would be honest but I was asking too much apparently. He says that he can disprove Simon’s rebuttal of the Knight theory but it’s too much of a secret for him to tell anyone. When it comes to ducking questions this guy’s a genius.

By the way Fishy, Steve has a medical background, is a researcher that has just written a book and has a more detailed knowledge of the case than I do, why don’t you ask him about how unreliable TOD estimates where in the LVP? Unless you think that he and I are involved in a conspiracy to discredit Knight? And, in the interests of openness Fishy, I’ll disclose that Steve is the only Forum member that I’ve actually met (once)

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hi Herlock,

Sorry, I missed your earlier Post#125.

I included the Macnaghten memorandum because it has skewed our understanding of the WM, and too many people have already fallen for it.

It is an indisputable historic artifact which one day will be exposed as an example of Macnaghten's mendacity.

It is a completely worthless document upon which to found one's suspicions.

Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon,

And you will not be surprised that I disagree with you on that one.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Herlock,

Sorry, I missed your earlier Post#125.

I included the Macnaghten memorandum because it has skewed our understanding of the WM, and too many people have already fallen for it.

It is an indisputable historic artifact which one day will be exposed as an example of Macnaghten's mendacity.

It is a completely worthless document upon which to found one's suspicions.

Regards,

Simon

[Elamarna]

Wilkes and Bettany,sBiographical History of Guy's Hospital

"Sir william gull had two or three short illnesses before the one which was the commencement of his fatal malady, but at this time he was well and enjoying himself in Scotland, near killiecrankie, when he was seized with slight paralysis on the right side of and aphasia. this was in October 1887. he recovered in great measure and returned to London, where he remained for some months comparatively well. friends who then saw him did not discern much difference in his looks and manner but he said he felt another man and gave up his practice. he subsequently had three epileptiform attacks, from which he rapidly recovered, but on January the 29th 1890 he was suddenly seized with a apoplectic attack, fell into a coma , and gradually passed away.''

Make up your own mind packer, but take note of the words ''he recovered in great measure'' and had three epileptiform attacks, from which he rapidly recovered, and friends who then saw him did not discern much difference in his looks and manner.

The queens physician in ordinary killing and mutilating prostitutes is a possibility

May one ask if you have checked with the current leading experts on Gull about his condition, rather than a few lines from a book ?

Steve

[Elamarna]

With respect Elamarna ,you have come into this conversation way to late, this has been going on for weeks, went through all that, but it didnt matter so this is whats happens in the end , but thanks anyway .

Which shows no respect for fellow posters at all.
And it is not for you to say someone joins a debate too late, it is clear you have no respect for any opinion but your own.

Steve