Sickert Was Ripper

[Abby Normal]

I used to think it was Walter Sickert, but no longer believe it to be so. I am Leaning more towards George Chapman. He is remembered today mostly because some of the police officers suspected him at the time. I wish I could change my User Name. I seem to be stuck with Sickert. LOL

You could always change it to Sickert and Ebskill

[Sickert]

Not Sickert

I used to think it was Walter Sickert, but no longer believe it to be so. I am Leaning more towards George Chapman. He is remembered today mostly because some of the police officers suspected him at the time. I wish I could change my User Name. I seem to be stuck with Sickert. LOL

[Fantomas]

To have Sickert's artist's eye for female nudes - and non idealised nudes at that - he has to have some respect for females, their bodies and above all an empathy.
I suppose, on reflection, that repressedly sexual artists produce mediocre, often caricatured figures - I'd buy that Robert Crumb was more capable of being a serial killer than Sickert, though I like Crumb's art. The "art" of most serial killers in history - from John Wayne Gacy's naive Disney paintings through to Dahmer's poetry - is invariably devoid of anything past a developmentally arrested or untrained talent. Killers with an artisan "skill" - like Ed Gein or Fred West - are ergonomic above aesthetic in approach. Artistic "creative" fury is borne out through their killings or deviancy that leads to killings while their other "work" is very pedestrian.

[Majic]

I did buy Ms Cornwell's book wherein she points the finger at Walter Sickert. An interesting read but at no point was I convinced that such a person as Sickert could have been the Ripper. I would be very surprised should I be proved wrong in this belief.

As fascinating as the book was in spinning a rather elaborate story regarding the artist, also exploring his apparent interest in the Whitechapel and Camden murders, at no point does she really substantiate anything close to being "case closed" as the title of the book suggests.

Sickert without doubt certainly had an interest in the murders, so much so to be moved to create a picture titled Jack the Ripper's Bedroom which is on exhibit in a Manchester gallery. It's a very atmospheric picture that certainly does capture the mood the title suggests.

A talented artist yet I don't feel one that turned his hand to murders, only had an interest, macabre or not with the Whitechapel murders.

[curious4]

The dna evidence would be worthless if Sickert didn't put the stamps on and seal the letters himself, which is a distinct possibility. He could well have given them to a servant to post.

Best wishes
C4

[packers stem]

And where do you suggest such a manifesto could/would be found?

I don't think there were any.There were on long distance trips to the states for example but even so people could give any name they so wished...
Is interesting that the 'sheridan' letter to Mrs McCarthy was sent from Folkestone though

[YankeeSergeant]

expert

I'm no expert on Walter Sickert and I read Cornwell's book twice. I find it just as implausible the second time. I've seen pictures of his paintings. I'm not sure that he even wrote any of the letters let alone committed any of the murders. I don't believe he was Jack the Ripper for the reasons many of you have explained far more cogently than I can. This is a very animated and enlightening discussion! Thanks!

[GUT]

I agree absolutely Miss Marple. You really have to understand the work of the Post-Impressionists before judging their work. It's like saying Agatha Christie must have been a murderer because she wrote books about murder. Or Patricia Cornwell, come to that!

Or most of the people here on Casebook, even those who aren't published spend a fair bt of time writting about it, but does that make them killers??

[Limehouse]

I agree absolutely Miss Marple. You really have to understand the work of the Post-Impressionists before judging their work. It's like saying Agatha Christie must have been a murderer because she wrote books about murder. Or Patricia Cornwell, come to that!

[miss marple]

The fusula was probably on his bottom not his penis, as the surgeon he saw was a bum man. Sickert was very attractive to woman and had numerious wives and mistresses thoughout his life.

I am sick of people reading this crummy book with out reading the Stugis biography or Sickert's extensive writings on art.
Its easier to jump to a conclusion with little informatuion other than a fantasist crime writer. Luckily most people can see through her. What she knowas about art of the 19th century you can write on the back of a nail.

Miss Marple

[GUT]

Yes, but that doesn't make the letters those of "Saucy Jackie" does it?

One letter was from "Saucy Jacky", But I doubt Saucy Jacky was the killer.

[YankeeSergeant]

Letters

Yes, but that doesn't make the letters those of "Saucy Jackie" does it?

[GUT]

To be fair she do a reasonable job of linking him to some letters.

[GUT]

There is a lot of chaff in this wheat field. I'm rereading cornwell's book and she keeps on about it and she seems to be big on speculation and short on facts. Am I missing something?

Nope!

[YankeeSergeant]

Fistula

There is a lot of chaff in this wheat field. I'm rereading cornwell's book and she keeps on about it and she seems to be big on speculation and short on facts. Am I missing something?