Maybrick/Formby Connection?

[MayBea]

On the 1901 census, Elizabeth Formby is listed as a laundress, still living at 27 Graham Street.

By then Edith would be 17 so she could well have been friends with Yapp/Murrin at this time, when Elizabeth was working at the laundry where the alleged transfer of the goods took place.

But I can't find Alice Murrin in 1901. Do you know where she is?

[Livia]

James Stanley Formby was born 5 April 1889 according to his death record.

On the 1901 census, Elizabeth Formby is listed as a laundress, still living at
27 Graham Street.

[Livia]

Edith Formby was only about 5 years old at the time of the
Maybrick trial.

Alice Yapp was 28.

Elizabeth Formby was about 39. On the 1891 census,
she is not listed as a laundress. She has a son aged
two, so she may have been pregnant during the trial
and unlikely to have appeared in public.

In 1891, William and Elizabeth Formby had the following
children:

Helena aged 16
William aged 14
Emma aged 12
Frederick aged 4
Edith aged 6
James aged 2

They lived at 27 Graham St in Toxteth Park.

Edith was born 13 Nov 1884, baptized at Princes Park St Paul
Fred was born 15 Nov 1886, also baptized at Princes Park St Paul

James was born 2nd Quarter of 1889, no baptism that I could find

[MayBea]

So far, everyone has said that the alleged connection between the Grahams and Battlecrease was the friendship between Alice Yapp and Elizabeth Formby, Billy Graham's step-mother-in-law.

However, Albert Turnbull, the researcher who found this link says here that the friendship was between Alice Yapp and Edith Formby, Elizabeth's daughter. Which is the truth?

http://books.google.ca/books?id=5lDdAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=grandad's+story+formby&source=bl&ots=tWb1GdWlzQ&sig=TQyV-U3IvfI0UwbyRCf4M7poNMg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cD88U-jcLe2G2wXj34HYCw&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=grandad's%20story%20formby&f=false

[MayBea]

W. Maybrick must be James' grandfather, William. He was parish clerk at St. Peter's, as was James' father William.

He was witness in hundreds of weddings, so it's not a big coincidence that one would be a Formby wedding.

Whether or not this Elizabeth Formby is related to Edith and Elizabeth Formby of Diary fame, I still have to check that out.

I jumped the gun but at least it shows that a lot of people would have known the Maybrick family.

[MayBea]

W. Maybrick must be James' grandfather, William (1815-1853?). He was parish clerk at St. Peter's, as was James' father William.

He was witness in hundreds of weddings, so it's not a big coincidence that one would be a Formby wedding.

Whether or not this Elizabeth Formby is related to Edith and Elizabeth Formby of Diary fame, I still have to check that out.

I jumped the gun but at least it shows that a lot of people would have known the Maybrick family.

[GUT]

G'day MayBea

Any relation to the Formbys in the Graham clan?

Good question.

But I understood that Mes Graham was claiming to be related to Florrie not James, or do I have that wrong?

I wish that the Grahams would produce some evidence that they are related.

Relation to the Maybrick's mght increase my interest in the diary and James.

[MayBea]

Hello, is this James' brother at a Formby wedding?

Any relation to the Formbys in the Graham clan?

Marriage: 12 Jun 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Edward O Connor - Labourer, this Parish
Elizabeth Formby - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: W. Maybrick; Robert Johnson
Married by Banns by: P. Bulmer Curate
Register: Marriages 1823 - 1825, Page 280, Entry 838
Source: LDS Film 93918

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool-Central/stpeter/marriages_1825e.html