Lechmere Found "With" Nichols' Body

[Shaggyrand]

Cats know what side their meals and other comforts are buttered on. She wouldn't have killed off the source of her food supply. On the other hand, it's a pity she didn't venture downstairs and have a go at Jack!

You gotta hold some respect for the only completely self-domesticating species on Earth. That does not mean that try don't try to kill their person for giggles on occasion. *******s.

And if we ever know those for FACTS you may get somewhere, but after countless arguments over them, they are till, in my mind, far from being established facts.

GUT, haven't you been reading the boards? We've left facts far behind for social constructivist and meta-theorizing in all most every popular thread.

[GUT]

Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body,

And if we ever know those for FACTS you may get somewhere, but after countless arguments over them, they are till, in my mind, far from being established facts.

[drstrange169]

>> Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body ...<<

Looking forward to the day those speculations move onto the fact sheet.



>> ... he would need to be cleared before any other people needed to be looked into, just like Andy Griffiths said in the docu.<<

That ridiculous statement from the seemingly sensible Griffiths has always puzzled me.

Was he really suggesting that if he had evidence that another person might have killed someone he would not have pursued more than one line of inquiry at the same time and risk the killer getting away with it?

[Fisherman]

Lechmere shouldn't have dragged his feet after finding the body. If he'd dashed off quicker for a cop, there would be no suspicion now. Unless he went for help too swiftly.

Welcome to the meta-world of Ripperology!

Lechmere could not dash for a cop until he examined the body. And he did not examine the body until Paul arrived. So if we reason that he was innocent, then no matter how we look upon things, we cannot possibly say that he dragged his feet.

Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body, there is no way that he can avoid suspicion. It is impossible to clear him, since Paul does not say that he saw and/or heard his fellow carman walking down the street in front of himself.

That is not the same as saying that he could not have been innocent, by the way. But he would need to be cleared before any other people needed to be looked into, just like Andy Griffiths said in the docu.

[Rosella]

Cats know what side their meals and other comforts are buttered on. She wouldn't have killed off the source of her food supply. On the other hand, it's a pity she didn't venture downstairs and have a go at Jack!

[Shaggyrand]

Lechmere shouldn't have dragged his feet after finding the body. If he'd dashed off quicker for a cop, there would be no suspicion now. Unless he went for help too swiftly.

Can we all finally admit cats are *******s and it was little Diddle's first attempt on his pet human's life. First late night attempt that woke her at least. Diddle was a terrible assassin. If she'd had a real companion, like a dog or small nearly starved to death orphan, sleeping at the foot of her bed that startled her awake when someone they knew entered the court... Well, history would be differently known.

[Rosella]

^ It was probably extremely cold in Elizabeth Prater's room and, as we know, cats love warmth. Diddles was probably seeking a better position near the heat of a human body (a live one!)

[GUT]

BTW Fish good to see you back posting.

[Pierre]

Kind of like Sweeney Todd...? Donīt think so - he would not have left that pile of flesh on the bedside table in Millerīs Court if that was the case.

Maybe Praterīs kitten should have it but ran away seeing it.

Pierre

[Pierre]

Hi Fisherman,

Thanks a lot for your view on the Kelly murder.

Regards Pierre

[Robert St Devil]

My bad, Fisherman.
I guess in my efforts to keep from writing an obtuse post, I managed to forget the framing.

Its not the idea of the cats-meat man walking by & hawking his wares at 4a. I was thinking of the cats-meat man after-hours:

The cats-meat man is off-hours. He is at Millers Court. Even from a distance, he is familiar to the cat, who, in turn, alerts the master.

I thought this & the Hanbury St. shop may have been Lexhmere's route, if he was the cm man.

For the past 6 mos. I have been learning (by direct experience) what you wrote about your cat experience to be true tho. Whoever taught those limey mongrels to think that my middle name is Serta has a royal... well anyways, yes, Felis Catus does have a propensity to want to sleep on top of a human around 3 or 4 in the morning.

[DJA]

More of a Sweeney Fawlty.

Vegetarian myself.

Edit. Sweeney the Rat. Meh. Just doesn't have the right ring to it.

[Fisherman]

Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

Horse meat substitution.

Think I smell a rat. :}

Kind of like Sweeney Todd...? Donīt think so - he would not have left that pile of flesh on the bedside table in Millerīs Court if that was the case.

[DJA]

Interesting thought - but no catīs meat man would seek out customers at 4 AM. There is a text somewhere about Harrison Barber, the knacker from where the majority of the cats meat men (and women) got their flesh, and it says that they queued up outside between 5 and 6 AM.
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Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

Horse meat substitution.

Think I smell a rat. :}

[Fisherman]

Hello Fisherman.

WAS LECHMERE THE CATS-MEAT MAN FOR MILLERS COURT? After reading about MCCarthy permitting No. 26 for the storage of costermonger barrows, i looked further into the professions of costermongers and cats-meat men. At first, what interested me were their "kings men". But the source remarked somethings that caught my attention. It stTed that barrows and hawkers would proceed past a dwelling all day long, and the cAt would not pay the least bit of attention. However, cats "knew" when the cats-meat man was near, and they would either race towards the door or seek out their master.

Elizabeth Prater states that her cat walked over her neck near 4am.

Hi Robert!

Interesting thought - but no catīs meat man would seek out customers at 4 AM. There is a text somewhere about Harrison Barber, the knacker from where the majority of the cats meat men (and women) got their flesh, and it says that they queued up outside between 5 and 6 AM.

I once stayed at a youth hostel during a fishing trip long ago. I stayed on the first floor. It was a warm night, and I had the window open. In the middle of the night, I woke up to the feeling that something large and heavy was walking on my chest.
It was a cat. under my room, there was a protruding veranda with a roof on it, and the cat had climbed up on it and sneaked in through the open window.
It was an odd feeling, I can say that much...

Anyway, it goes to prove that catīs donīt need any promise of food to tread on you!

Besides, in 1888, Lechmere would not have been a cats meat man - he was a carman, employed by Pickfords at that stage.