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    In the most recent HoL offering regarding why did Jack The Ripper start murdering we are given loads of 'expert' opinions from Doctor of psychology Ed Stow He goes through various reasons why X Y or Z might have started the series of killings. Of course this quickly turns from being about all suspects to just one in particular... amazingly enough.
    We are told that Holmgren believes the inspiration behind the Ripper murders lie in the anatomical Venus waxworks of the day. Of course this is mentioned in Cutting Point.

    DR. KAHN’S GRAND ANATOMICAL MUSEUM, 315 Oxford Street, is now OPEN from 10 o’clock in the morning till 10 o’clock at night. Popular Lectures, explanatory of the Structure and Functions of the Human Body, and illustrated by models, will be delivered daily by an English medical gentleman, at the following hours, viz., 11,1,3,5,7, and 9 o’clock – Admission 2s.
    Although the above quote states 2s the flyer for admission states 1s. I presume the 2s was viewing with an included lecture. My question is would Charles Cross be willing to pay nearly a days rent to view this spectacle and if so would he even be allowed in as a lower class East ender carman? The advert clearly states 'Gentlemen' and of course was in the more affluent West End of London. The show was held for 22 years from Cross being 2 years old until he was 24.
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    I really find it highly unlikely that Cross would pay to attend, travel across London to attend or even be allowed in to the showing. Ideas?

    (The other huge faux pas in the video was Stow claiming Cross as the killer could not escape west of the murder site as he knew he would bump into PC Neil or PC81GER hence he had to stay and 'bluff it out.' The unfortunate thing for Stow is a couple of minutes later Cross and Paul did manage to 'escape' Bucks Row without seeing another soul till they encountered PC Mizen at the end of Hanbury Street. These HoL videos are great the more he puts out the more he ties himself up in knots.)

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    Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
    We are told that Holmgren believes the inspiration behind the Ripper murders lie in the anatomical Venus waxworks of the day... I really find it highly unlikely that Cross would pay to attend, travel across London to attend or even be allowed in to the showing. Ideas?
    Not content with identifying JTR, they also claim to have solved the Torso Mysteries and, furthermore, discovered the cause and inspiration for both series of murders. If only real-life criminal investigations were this easy!
    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

      Not content with identifying JTR, they also claim to have solved the Torso Mysteries and, furthermore, discovered the cause and inspiration for both series of murders. If only real-life criminal investigations were this easy!
      ...oh and nearly every unsolved female murder in London until about 1915. Next we will be getting people visited Cross' grave and the voices from within made them commit murder adding to his tally.

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        Also to note, the times the exhibit was open seem awfully to clash with Cross' apparent working patterns. So in effect I would suggest he had no time to visit the waxworks unless he did it on his only day off, but he was visiting his mother and daughter then according to Team Lechmere. Tis all a mess it really is. It's astonishing how much activity Cross could cram into his little spare time.

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        • #5
          Geddy, I think that this is a clue that everyone has missed which solves the case. It’s the last piece of information to leak out which points to the killer.

          The exhibition owner was called KAHN

          KAHN as a surname in German means SMALL BOAT

          Small is KLEIN in German

          A type of boat is a CATAMARAN

          So we have KLEIN CATAMARAN

          So how does this prove to be a leaked messaged that points to the killer?

          An anagram of KLEIN CATAMARAN is…


          ANTI CARMAN LEAK


          Case closed….nice knowing you all.
          Regards

          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post


            Case closed….nice knowing you all.
            Ah yes, it is so it seems. Been a good ride...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
              (The other huge faux pas in the video was Stow claiming Cross as the killer could not escape west of the murder site as he knew he would bump into PC Neil or PC81GER hence he had to stay and 'bluff it out.' The unfortunate thing for Stow is a couple of minutes later Cross and Paul did manage to 'escape' Bucks Row without seeing another soul till they encountered PC Mizen at the end of Hanbury Street. These HoL videos are great the more he puts out the more he ties himself up in knots.)
              Ah yes, the famous argument that he would have run right into the arms of PC Neil... So, instead of doing that he only went westwards a minute or so later when he could be sure that Neil was a minute or so nearer to the murder site. I wonder what he would have said to Neil to scam him. I bet something like "a policeman wants you there" wouldn't have done the trick. But I'm sure that wasn't something that a guilty Lechmere would have needed to worry about, according to Stow & Co.

              Cheers,
              Frank
              "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
              Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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