Why Cross Was Almost Certainly Innocent

[Sam Flynn]

yes of course sam. i see your point.but im not talking about how close someone was to a body.of course legit witnesses will be close. but let me ask you this. if you were walking along to work and saw a man standing in the middle of the street in the dead of night next to what you later found out was a freshly killed dead woman wouldnt you be a tad suspicious? i know i would.

Firstly, he was standing in the road, not next to the body. Secondly, if he willingly brought my attention to the body, accompanied me to examine it, and went with me to find a police officer, I don't think I'd be suspicious at all. I might also pick up some verbal/non-verbal cues from meeting him in person, e.g. his tone of voice and demeanour, which are insights entirely denied to us in the relatively sparse reports we have at our disposal.

[Fiver]

It does yes, however do you consider what 'Karen' is saying to have any truth in it? See seems convinced, like I said difficult to read, that Charles Cross and Charles Lechmere are two completely different people which opens up loads of new 'lines' of enquires. Pickford's history states Charles Cross worked at Pickfords. Not Charles Lechmere.

There were carmen named Charles Cross. But the carman who lived at 22 Doveton was Charles Allen Lechmere.

[Herlock Sholmes]

It does yes, however do you consider what 'Karen' is saying to have any truth in it? See seems convinced, like I said difficult to read, that Charles Cross and Charles Lechmere are two completely different people which opens up loads of new 'lines' of enquires. Pickford's history states Charles Cross worked at Pickfords. Not Charles Lechmere.

Geddy, I’ll confidently guess that ‘Karen’ is Karen Trenouth who posted on here before my time and got banned by Ally. Ally could tell you more but, if memory serves, I don’t think that she’s keen on revisiting the whole episode. Someone linked me to details about her but I don’t have them to hand. I’d describe her as an unbalanced person to put it mildly. She was prosecuted by another woman for something or other. Genuinely believes and openly states that she is a genius. If she told me what day it was I’d check the calendar first. She wrote this book, which I haven’t read and have no intention of reading.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper-Satanic-Karen-Trenouth/dp/1425972373

She called author Bob Hinton a ‘corrupt magistrate’ after a huge spat on here.

This is a blog about her.

http://masonicinfo.com/trenouth.htm

[Geddy2112]

It's from 2013 and that forum appears to have died in 2021.

It does yes, however do you consider what 'Karen' is saying to have any truth in it? See seems convinced, like I said difficult to read, that Charles Cross and Charles Lechmere are two completely different people which opens up loads of new 'lines' of enquires. Pickford's history states Charles Cross worked at Pickfords. Not Charles Lechmere.

[Abby Normal]

Fair enough, Abby. As far as your last remark, though, an honest question: would we necessarily have known it if he had been investigated or even just questioned and cleared?

I'm curious what you and others think about that.

maybe. maybe not. so no we would not necessarily know i think. however, we do know other witnesses were, like richardson, barnett and hutch so i lean towards that we would probably know if lech was.